17L BM2.0 Oysteilo (x) vs Gamerman01

[oysteilo]

@oysteilo:

@oysteilo:

@Gamerman01:

Oh.  Forgot fighter cover was needed in Rome.  At least the German infantry got off

In situations like this I think defender should be able to surface the sub, meaning the plane can hit it, but sub can not fire back on plane (it is a warship, not a transport) adding to the defence of the cruiser and the transport. I really don’t see why this is unreasonable and not allowed

At least I prevented the dumbass Crete objective for Germany (for now)

similar in the sense that AA units can fire at planes and subs can fire at (war)ships,

If you consider the aa gun it is somewhat similar. It has a defence value but no offence value (with other units)

[oysteilo]

@oysteilo:

@oysteilo:

@oysteilo:

@Gamerman01:

Oh.  Forgot fighter cover was needed in Rome.  At least the German infantry got off

In situations like this I think defender should be able to surface the sub, meaning the plane can hit it, but sub can not fire back on plane (it is a warship, not a transport) adding to the defence of the cruiser and the transport. I really don’t see why this is unreasonable and not allowed

At least I prevented the dumbass Crete objective for Germany (for now)

similar in the sense that AA units can fire at planes and subs can fire at (war)ships,

[oysteilo]

i am messing with the quote here but you get the idea

[gamerman01]

@oysteilo:

At least I prevented the dumbass Crete objective for Germany (for now)

Yeah you know I hate that one too.  Thanks for sparing us the cheese

[gamerman01]

It was with a lone bomber?!  You lucky dog

[gamerman01]

And you rolled a 6??
Heart attack city

[gamerman01]

So these Italians are even sorrier now.  Wow
Germany and Japan gonna have to pick up the slack

[oysteilo]

@Gamerman01:

And you rolled a 6??
Heart attack city

yeah, you rolled poorly there, we both miss round one, I hit round two and you miss again……

[gamerman01]

Not even going to let them have the NO?
If you could punish Germany and Japan the way you do Italy…

[oysteilo]

@Gamerman01:

Not even going to let them have the NO?
If you could punish Germany and Japan the way you do Italy…

I hate Italy. much easier to punish than G and J. You have too much J momentum. I do not feel sorry for you

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod, version: 2.0

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Italians
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War
            Trigger Russians Allied Americans 3: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
                  Italians take Eastern Poland from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                  Italians take Bessarabia from Russians

Combat - Italians

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 aaGuns moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 armour moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
            2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone

Place Units - Italians
            1 bomber placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs total

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[oysteilo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod, version: 2.0

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Java

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 artillery moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from India to Eastern Persia
            2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs

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[oysteilo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod, version: 2.0

Game History

Round: 3

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
                  French take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to Eastern Persia
            1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            2 cruisers moved from 90 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 90 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - French

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[gamerman01]

NW Persia is so pretty now!

You make the world a better place.

[oysteilo]

@Gamerman01:

NW Persia is so pretty now!

You make the world a better place.

Thanks! I try my best

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod, version: 2.0

Game History

Round: 4

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States
                  Germans take Baltic States from Russians
            1 armour moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Karelia
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Vyborg
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 104 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Romania to Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Ukraine

Combat - Germans
            Air Battle in United Kingdom
                Germans attacks with 4 units heading to United Kingdom
                Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
            Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
                1 bomber killed by AA
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: harbour
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 8,4 and causes: 12 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 15 damage total.  Damaged units is as follows: harbour = 3, factory_major = 12
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                French defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for French: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Karelia
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Vyborg
                Germans attack with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Cleaning up after air battles

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Karelia to Finland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Vyborg to Finland
            1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
            3 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 artillery moved from Germany to Poland
            1 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to Baltic States
            3 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 aaGun moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy
            1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany
            21 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 aaGun moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            5 artilleries moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            4 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 armour moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland

Place Units - Germans
            2 fighters placed in Western Germany
            2 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            Germans undo move 3.
            1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 mech_infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs

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[gamerman01]

I did assume no intercept at London

[gamerman01]

Wait, forgot 1 sub

[gamerman01]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod, version: 2.0

Game History

Round: 4

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States
                  Germans take Baltic States from Russians
            1 armour moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Karelia
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Vyborg
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 104 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Romania to Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Ukraine

Combat - Germans
            Air Battle in United Kingdom
                Germans attacks with 4 units heading to United Kingdom
                Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
            Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
                1 bomber killed by AA
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: harbour
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 8,4 and causes: 12 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 15 damage total.  Damaged units is as follows: harbour = 3, factory_major = 12
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                French defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for French: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Karelia
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Vyborg
                Germans attack with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Cleaning up after air battles

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Karelia to Finland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Vyborg to Finland
            1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
            3 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 artillery moved from Germany to Poland
            1 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to Baltic States
            3 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 aaGun moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy
            1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany
            21 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 aaGun moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            5 artilleries moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            4 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 armour moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland

Place Units - Germans
            2 fighters placed in Western Germany
            2 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            Germans undo move 3.
            1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 mech_infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 110 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 111 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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[gamerman01]

The invasion did take place then.

Joseph didn’t say PRETTY please