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[Yemble]

I teach history and have often thought of how to incorperate AA into some of my lessons.  Unfortunately time constraints limits what I can really do with my middle school students.  But I am very interested in what you do.  If you need any help I will certainly like to be of some assistance.

[cyan]

@tekkyy:

Its a pity “house rules” are not a priority for TripleA, which hasn’t fully supported Pacific and Europe yet.
At one stage the project leader did consider having a more versatile template so people can setup their own own rules easier.

But sounds like you know programming just not Java. If thats the case learn Java. Its an “easy” language selected by many 1st year programming courses.

yeah they even teach it in highschool as a beggining computer’s course. can’'t be that hard to learn.

[Yemble]

problem is time….
working 70 hours a week really makes free time a premium…so playing gf, AA, halo 3(soon), and paintball are what take priority.

[tekkyy]

For history lesson I would first start with a real map and paritition it.

For game rules I would actually simplify combat.  But strategic bombing [of civilians] remains.  :|

Probably want to cover issues like resources and diplomacy so have to make room (reduce emphasis on combat).

[Guest]

@tekkyy:

For history lesson I would first start with a real map and paritition it.

For game rules I would actually simplify combat.  But strategic bombing [of civilians] remains.  :|

Probably want to cover issues like resources and diplomacy so have to make room (reduce emphasis on combat).

For the class using Axis and Allies, it comes in the third week, after the kids have covered WW1 and the interwar period, with the information and roleplaying of the interwar period being drawn from Churchill’s book, The Gathering Storm.  We use straight combat rules, however, we always have a team of kids playing each of the countries:  Russia, US, UK, Germany, and Japan.  Quite a bit on negotiating and diplomacy occurs as a matter of course then.  We also have some house rules that we plug in, depending on how the game is going.

[tekkyy]

What kind of diplomacy usually occur?
With the standard out-of-box rules and victory condition I didn’t expect diplomacy to occur.

[cyan]

@tekkyy:

What kind of diplomacy usually occur?
With the standard out-of-box rules and victory condition I didn’t expect diplomacy to occur.

I would think of them more as threats than diplomacy. i don’t see how it can be sincere diplomacy. because the number one rule in WII was TOTAL SURRENDER or death.

[Guest]

@cyan:

@tekkyy:

What kind of diplomacy usually occur?
With the standard out-of-box rules and victory condition I didn’t expect diplomacy to occur.

I would think of them more as threats than diplomacy. i don’t see how it can be sincere diplomacy. because the number one rule in WII was TOTAL SURRENDER or death.

You need to remember that we have separate teams playing each country, so that instead of two players, you have 5 teams.  The diplomacy is between the Axis players, Germany and Japan, and the amoung the Allied players.  The Axis players are normally discussing how to best handle Russia while holding off the US, and putting pressure on the UK.  With the Axis, it normally goes something like the German player asking the Japanese player to hit Russia and force the Russians to move troops east while the German player hits the Mid East to force the UK player there and render India vulnerable.  For the Allies, it is typically the UK player asking the US player to cover India and Australia so that he can help the Russian player in Karelia.  We are using the Classic game and 2nd Edition rules.

Depending on how the game goes, we sometimes also use my Lend-Lease house rule, where the UK and the Russian player receive Lend-Lease production certificates that can be used to obtain additional units from the US, without reducing US production.  It is similar in concept to the Lend-Lease rule for Russia in the Revised Rules, but applies also to the UK, does not reduce US production, and is based on a die roll.  Once it is in use, the British receive one free destroyer and one free transport a turn, in addition to 12 plus a D6 die roll of certificates, while ther Russians receive one free fighter from Alaska and 6 plus a D6 die roll of certificates.  I have made up Lend-Lease production certificates similar to the  IPC  certificates used in the game, and the players can also trade them back and forth in order to further cement deals.  The German and Japanese player team are told that they can ignore agreements made with each other, this does of course hamper further cooperation, while the Allied players are told that there will be penalties for failing to carry out their obligations to the other allies.

The Allies are also told that they win or loose as a group, while the Axis players win individually.  We have had cases of the German player winning the game while the Japanese player is wiped out.  This happens when the US player focuses too much on Japan.  I would guess that most of the players on the boards are either used to playing two-player face to face or two-player online.  Once you have more than two players, the diplomacy and negotiating starts.

[Crazy Ivan]

I will post a deck of 52 special event cards this week. Have to use my work computer, as my home computer keeps kicking me off when I post anything too long.

[Imperious Leader]

when you do post them can they be formatted for standard business cards template from avery?  That way it will easily mate up with my paper inventory

[Guest]

I have worked up two sets of random events charts for Axis & Allies Classic, and A & A Pacific.  I  have keyed the charts to a standard 52 card deck, and you will need to cross-reference the card drawn to the chart.  I had not thought of Avery business cards, but I have the templates for those in Print Shop, so I could also make them up that way.  I was planning to market them with the charts, expansion rules for A & A Pacific to six players, possibly some additional plastic units, and a deck of the WW2 aircraft recognition cards to use for determining events.  There will be charts for both the Allied and the Axis player, and the charts will not be the same.  The events will be based on what happened or could have happened in World War 2, and may not necessarily effect all players equally.  The areas for events are weather, technology improvements, production improvements, and what I call “windfalls”, for one time bonuses of either units or IPCs.  The way they would be used are that each player will draw a card from the deck, and reference it to the  event chart.  If a weather event, the effects last for the duration of the drawing players turn.  If a technology or production event, the effects are immediate, and last the remainder of the game.  If a windfall, the effects are immediate, but do not last past the end of the  drawing player’s turn.  Some of the events will effect all of the Allied or all of the Axis players, and some will only effect the drawing player or one of the Allies or one of the Axis players.  If the German player draws a card that is specifically for the Japanese player, “Japanese Banzai Tactics” (for example), the card has no effect and goes into the discard pile.  The same applies to the Allied player.  The set will have game-specific event charts for all of the Axis and Allies games:  Classic, Revised, Pacific, and Europe.  I suspect that I am going to also need a technology and production improvement chart with markers to keep track off which player has what bonuses.  The cards would be subject to reshuffling once all are used, and drawn again.

I will be checking this week if I can include additional plastic unit counters for some of the changes in the game, such as Me-262, P-80 Shooting Star, and Gloster Meteor for jet fighters, the Superfortress for the US, additional fighters for everyone, maybe some medium bombers to use to start the game, and then use the Halifax and Flying Fortress for the heavy bomber upgrade, cruisers for home rule expansions, units for an Italian player, tanks specific to the British (probably the  Churchill), tank landing craft for armor transport (LST and the Japanese equivalent, carry one tank or infantry or artillery unit, cost 6 IPC), some APD fast transports for the US (based on the  converted  4-pipers, can transport one infantry unit with attack and defense of 2, cost 6 IPC), and maybe some transport planes and seaplane units.  The idea for the air units would be that they could also be used in the War at Sea miniature game as additional air units, bombers circa 1/600 scale, fighters and attack aircraft circa 1/360 scale.  The plastic will depend on how much the molds cost and the amount of lead time for them.  Also, whether or not I can produce them in one color of plastic, and figure that the players are responsible for telling them apart.

Would you be interested is seeing a sample chart posted?  I can put it up in PDF format if desired.

[Crazy Ivan]

I’m not sure if Avery is an option for me, but I will check into it.

[Imperious Leader]

you just go to their site and download the template and plug in your cards. It would remove the need to cut anything each card is 3.5x2 inches

[Hobbes]

I’ve made a deck of cards for Classic some time ago (before I got revised). It uses a simple 52 deck + 2/3 jokers, which is subdivided into 4 subdecks for each suit. Each side would draw 3 cards each turn from any decks it choose and assign them to countries. Clubs was the Political deck, Diamonds Economic, Spades Strategic and Hearts Intelligence&Technology.
Some cards affected all countries, others were to be played either at the beginning of a round or when attacked. It could really add some randomness or new elements since there where cards for China Neutrality, Coalition Betrayal, Subversion, 5th Column, Inflation, Russian Winter, Unrestricted Submarine Warfare, Elite Units, etc.

[Imperious Leader]

well…. when are you people gonna post this stuff???

[Hobbes]

I would post the .doc file but this board doesn’t seem to allow attachments. Want me to email it to you?

EDIT - Nevermind, just figured out how to do it.

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[Guest]

Attached is a sample random event card chart that I have worked up for Axis and Allies 2nd Edition.  It is the Allied Players Chart.  I have worked up an Axis Players Chart as well.  It uses a standard card deck of 52 cards.  The weather events only apply during the drawing players turn, and effect whatever players units are in the designated areas.  The technology and production improvements are effective throughout the remainder of the game  The windfalls are one time bonuses for that turn only.  Obviously, there are explainations that need to accompany the chart, and I am working on those.  I will be doing similar charts for Pacific, Revised, and then Europe.  I intend to put these on the market as a set, along with additional material.  Packaged with the set will hopefully be a set of the WW2 Aircraft Recognition Playing Cards. I am not too sure about the long-term wearability of the Avery business cards.

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[Imperious Leader]

Oh for heaven sakes… can somebody just get cards made that:

1. have a world war two picture related to and an explanation of what/ it effects the game?
2. have some graphics that have no POKER information on them?

[Crazy Ivan]

I also have completed 10 of the 27 different card types, in the business card format that you requested, but am having trouble getting it posted to this site. I’m not too savy when it comes to changing formats, etc…
Crazy Ivan

[Guest]

@Imperious:

Oh for heaven sakes… can somebody just get cards made that:

1. have a world war two picture related to and an explanation of what/ it effects the game?
2. have some graphics that have no POKER information on them?

If you are looking for custom-made cards, and want an Avery business card size, you are asking for a fair amount of work.  As for graphics, I have somewhere around 5,000 or so WW2 graphics, most of which will not fit on a busines card.  Are you expecting to get these for free, or are you willing to pay for them?