HNS 2v2

[Ozymandiac]

Es tut mir leid, Hirohito… En gratuliere voor de Allies :-)

Ik ben uiteraard bij een nieuwe pot. Ik heb voor de afwisseling wel weer eens zin in 1940, maar 1942 is een goeie tweede keus. Wat jullie?

[MrMJH]

Wij hadden het idd al snel in de gaten dat India niet te behouden was, maar ook dat het vrij lastig zou worden voor Japan, om zowel India als Hawaii te gelijk te behouden. Maar potje was weer eens iets anders…

Zeker voor een nieuw potje, maar ik prefereer denk ik 1942. Ik zou graag eens het lot van de Axis ondergaan in deze versie…;)

[Ozymandiac]

Masochist :-D

[hansworst]

Ik heb nu twee keer op rij het zoet van de allies mogen proeven, dus het zuur van de Axis 1942 zou ik zeker geen slechte optie vinden, ben eigenlijk nooit echt Japan geweest. Een 1940 ben ik uiteraard ook helemaal bij, maar lichte voorkeur 1942.

[LederhosenMachtFrei]

@MrMJH - Als je gewoon was blijven staan had ik India en Hawaii prima kunnen houden :P

1942 is prima. Maar we moeten binnenkort ook maar even kijken of we de balans wat beter kunnen tweaken in
toekomstige potten :)

[MrMJH]

Ik bedoelde dus ook dat wij India niet zouden houden als we bleven staan…;)

Maar dan mag ik met de Italianen…;) nice… Kijken of we de Aquila kunnen overtreffen!!
En over die balans… zullen we anders de Aquila meteen op het bord gooien…;)

Wat mij betreft, als jullie de Allies hebben verdeeld… mogen jullie beginnen!

Ik ben alleen eerst nog even een weekendje weg naar Munchen… schijnen daar wat pilsjes geschonken te worden momenteel…

[hansworst]

@Lederhosen:

@MrMJH - Als je gewoon was blijven staan had ik India en Hawaii prima kunnen houden :P

1942 is prima. Maar we moeten binnenkort ook maar even kijken of we de balans wat beter kunnen tweaken in
toekomstige potten :)

Ik denk dat die +2 schade die bombers doen weghalen al een prima tweak is. Spel wordt nu behoorlijk hard beslist door AA schoten. Een keer bomber uit de lucht scheelt over 5 rondes al ca. 30 ipc voor bijvoorbeeld duitsland.

[hansworst]

@hansworst:

@Lederhosen:

@MrMJH - Als je gewoon was blijven staan had ik India en Hawaii prima kunnen houden :P

1942 is prima. Maar we moeten binnenkort ook maar even kijken of we de balans wat beter kunnen tweaken in
toekomstige potten :)

Ik denk dat die +2 schade die bombers doen weghalen al een prima tweak is. Spel wordt nu behoorlijk hard beslist door AA schoten. Een keer bomber uit de lucht scheelt over 5 rondes al ca. 30 ipc voor bijvoorbeeld duitsland.

Selfquote. Ik denk dat we het in deze samenstelling nog wel eens kunnen proberen met de huidige regels, maar als de axis er weer genadeloos afvliegen, is tweaken wel nodig, of gewoon weer even 1940 van stal halen en later met fris gemoed en nieuwe ideëen opnieuw beginnen.

[Ozymandiac]

Hee Hansiehansie, tegelijkertijd aan het posten zie ik. Wilde net het volgende zeggen:

Die Young Grasshopper heeft een variant op SBR+2 die ik wel aantrekkelijk vindt. Het is een milde wijziging die het huidige spel niet drastisch verandert. Mocht dat niet bevallen, dan kunnen we het weer wat verder trekken en de +2 verder inperken. Hij gebruikt:

• +1 als de strategic bomber vanaf een operationeel vliegveld vertrekt
• +1 als er geen intercept plaatsvindt
  (http://cliffsidebunker.com/files/YG_House_rules.pdf)

Ik ben het verder eens met wat je zegt, wil dit potje nog wel eens de huidige regels gebruiken als jullie geen bezwaar hebben.

[hansworst]

@Ozymandiac:

Hee Hansiehansie, tegelijkertijd aan het posten zie ik. Wilde net het volgende zeggen:

Die Young Grasshopper heeft een variant op SBR+2 die ik wel aantrekkelijk vindt. Het is een milde wijziging die het huidige spel niet drastisch verandert. Mocht dat niet bevallen, dan kunnen we het weer wat verder trekken en de +2 verder inperken. Hij gebruikt:

• +1 als de strategic bomber vanaf een operationeel vliegveld vertrekt
• +1 als er geen intercept plaatsvindt
  (http://cliffsidebunker.com/files/YG_House_rules.pdf)

Ik ben het verder eens met wat je zegt, wil dit potje nog wel eens de huidige regels gebruiken als jullie geen bezwaar hebben.

Dat vind ik idd wel een mooie variant, dan loont intercepten ook wat meer :) Komt toch het meest ten gunste van Duitsland, en maakt bomber tactieken tegen uk pac en rusland ook minder aantrekkelijk. Nu is het toch vaak die bombers maar wild over fabrieken slingeren omdat de opbrengst zo groot is als je niet uit de lucht gaat.  Eerst nog wel een laatste poging met huidige regels :)

Ik ben er klaar voor. Verdeling bij ons is:

• MRMJH duitsland/italie
• Hansie Japan

[Ozymandiac]

Aight. Onze verdeling wordt:

• Lederhosen doet USA + ANZAC + China
• Ozy doet USSR + UK + Frankrijk

[Ozymandiac]

Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.9, time: 21:14:53

[Ozymandiac]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            3 armour moved from Urals to Smolensk
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Urals to Belarus
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Belarus
            4 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Archangel to Smolensk
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Baltic States
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Russians attack with 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 armour and 3 infantry
                1 infantry owned by the Russians retreated to Archangel
                Germans win with 1 armour and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
            Battle in Smolensk
                Russians attack with 4 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 4 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 17
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
                  Russians take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 armour moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Smolensk
            1 aaGun moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Sakha
            2 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
            2 infantry moved from Evenkiyskiy to Urals
            1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda
            1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone

Place Units - Russians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Novgorod
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs total
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 40 PUs

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[hansworst]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 4 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 submarine moved from 49 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 39 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
                  Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
                  Japanese take Hunan from Chinese
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
            1 bomber moved from Japan to Yunnan

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[hansworst]

Dear foe,

Do you want to scramble your airplanes to sz 39?

[Ozymandiac]

スクランブルがない (geen scramble :-P)

[hansworst]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 4 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 submarine moved from 49 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 39 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
                  Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
                  Japanese take Hunan from Chinese
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
            1 bomber moved from Japan to Yunnan

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 49 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                Japanese win with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            Battle in 39 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 3 fighters
                British defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 1 transport
                Japanese win, taking 39 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 45
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 1 transport
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in 62 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 submarine
                ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Japanese win, taking 62 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Anhwe
                Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Anhwe from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 fighter moved from 39 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Kwangsi
            1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 battleship, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 49 Sea Zone to New Britain
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Philippines
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to French Indo China
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            1 destroyer and 2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in Japan
            1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 53 PUs; end with 57 PUs total

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[hansworst]

En nu maar afwachten op welke kant de Amerikaanse “fire and fury” zich gaat richten

[LederhosenMachtFrei]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 carriers and 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Solomon Islands to 49 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 16 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 16 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to 107 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 107 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to 49 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 49 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 cruiser
                Americans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser
            Battle in 16 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 107 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 2 submarines
                Americans win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from 107 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from 107 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
                  Americans take Brazil from Neutral_Allies
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Eastern United States
            1 armour moved from Western United States to Eastern United States
            1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
            1 bomber moved from 49 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 49 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            2 fighters moved from 16 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            2 fighters moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Alaska to British Columbia
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to New Brunswick Nova Scotia
            1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 54 PUs total
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 74 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

British Columbia : 1 infantry
    Queensland : 1 bomber
    Solomon Islands : 1 artillery and 4 infantry
    Western United States : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 airfield, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    Midway : 1 airfield and 1 infantry
    49 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    26 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport
    10 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
    16 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Central United States : 1 artillery and 1 factory_major
    Eastern United States : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 armour and 1 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 bomber
    106 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    86 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    101 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
    Brazil : 1 flag, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    107 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer

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[LederhosenMachtFrei]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Hunan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Hunan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Hunan to Shensi

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Suiyuyan
            3 infantry placed in Shensi
            Chinese undo move 2.
            1 infantry placed in Shensi
            2 infantry placed in Suiyuyan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUs total

Territory Summary for Chinese :

Shensi : 1 fighter and 2 infantry
    Suiyuyan : 5 infantry
    Szechwan : 1 infantry

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