2017 League General Discussion Thread

[gamerman01]

Thanks Snigg!!

[majikforce]

Nice analysis Snigg!  So just to clarify, since the initial requirement for the transport to unload was met during the combat move phase (escorting surface war ship) it is no longer a requirement for the tranpsort to unload during the conduct combat phase regardless of how scrambling/kamikaze will affect the battle.  I can accept that.  But it would be nice if the wording of the rules were actually a little clearer on that point since the way its written now is still open to interperation.  Good discusion fellas on a pretty unique situation in the game.  Thanks for all the thoughts and input.  Case is closed for me.  Now its time to pop some pain killers for my dislocated finger from B-ball last night and take a little nappy!  :-D

[Snigg]

@majikforce:

Nice analysis Snigg!  So just to clarify, since the initial requirement for the transport to unload was met during the combat move phase (escorting surface war ship) it is no longer a requirement for the tranpsort to unload during the conduct combat phase regardless of how scrambling/kamikaze will affect the battle.  I can accept that.  But it would be nice if the wording of the rules were actually a little clearer on that point since the way its written now is still open to interperation.  Good discusion fellas on a pretty unique situation in the game.  Thanks for all the thoughts and input.  Case is closed for me.  Now its time to pop some pain killers for my dislocated finger from B-ball last night and take a little nappy!  :-D

Well, scrambling will initiate a sea combat, as now their will be defending air units present which will automatically drag that sub in too.  So, any unescorted transport would be toast at that point.  Kamikaze alone isn’t enough to initiate a sea combat, and thus allows the transport to continue to ignore the sub.

Hope the finger gets better…or at least that nap helps ;)

[JDOW]

@Gamerman01:

@JDOW:

Oh, and of course, does the sub fight in the sea battle? I guess yes, correct?

Yes, again, kamikazes are unique.  They are a separate attack that takes place at the beginning of the conduct combat phase.

Scrambles of aircraft (actual plastic pieces on the board as opposed to kamikaze tokens) are regular, conventional battles that create combat in the seazone (kamikazes do not), bringing the subs into the battle.

Thanks!

[gamerman01]

Now accepting signups for the 2017 playoffs
All players who want to be in the playoffs need to let me know by private message or in the league discussion thread (this thread) and I will sign you up.  You will not be in the playoffs if you don’t sign up with me, even if you’re ranked #1.  This is because not everyone who is in the top 8 and would qualify for the league playoff wants to play, so you must sign up.

You may see who is signed up by looking at the game results spreadsheet - I made a new tab.  As you could see from viewing the list, I have already received signups from
Dawgoneit
Amon-Sul
Von Alba
JuanSpain

You need me to sign you up because I don’t want people to be able to delete someone else or any other funny business - it’s for everyone’s protection, you understand.

League rules state that the only requirement is that you have completed at least 3 games during 2017 in league play.  All players with 3 games played may participate in the playoffs

You must sign up by December 30 so that players may begin on January 1.  I don’t want to worry about last-minute signups.

Last year’s 2nd playoff champion (league championship game is in progress between RUBIOTON and ME1945) was Wittman, who advanced all the way from the PLAY-IN game!!
Will you be 2017’s Wittman!?  You have to enter to find out  :-D

[Gargantua]

Just want to clarify,  that is for the additional league playoffs?

I still need 8 games to qualify for the League Champion playoffs?

Any players who have completed 3 or more games, and who did not qualify for the League Champion Playoff may sign up to enter the additional league playoffs.  These playoffs will start with 4 or 8 players each, and will be seeded by PPG (with byes or play-in games as necessary)

[Witt]

I am , thank you , Gamerman.
Will PM you later . Funny, as I was going to do that earlier today!

[gamerman01]

@Gargantua:

Just want to clarify,  that is for the additional league playoffs?

No, this is for ALL playoffs

I still need 8 games to qualify for the League Champion playoffs?

Yes.  The top 8 players who sign up and who have completed 8 games will be in the League Champion playoff automatically.

[gamerman01]

@wittmann:

I am , thank you , Gamerman.
Will PM you later . Funny, as I was going to do that earlier today!

Since I’d received 4 unsolicited signups already, I thought it was time  :-)

[Gargantua]

@Gamerman01:

@Gargantua:

Just want to clarify,  that is for the additional league playoffs?

No, this is for ALL playoffs

I still need 8 games to qualify for the League Champion playoffs?

Yes.  The top 8 players who sign up and who have completed 8 games will be in the League Champion playoff automatically.

Right so 3 games doesn’t do you any good, you need 8 games to qualify for league champion playoff.

[gamerman01]

3 games gets you into playoffs, just not the main one

Yes, you need 8 to qualify for the league champion playoff, 3 for the others

[oysteilo]

Yes 8 it is. Probably a good number. I completely applaude Simon, Karl 7 and others who finishes all these games. I have a fairly flexible schedule and will not reach 20

[Giallo]

In my game vs Simon, we play with tech. The game doesn’t ask me to scramble, then I hit the ab with my rockets and it can’t scramble anymore. What is the correct rule here, can my opponent scramble or not?

[wheatbeer]

Scrambling happens at the end of Combat Movement Phase (page 16, Europe Rulebook) while Rockets occur “During the Strategic and Tactical Bombing Raids step of your Conduct Combat phase” (page 40, Europe Rulebook).

Assuming the airbase wasn’t already damaged to the point of being inoperative at the end of Combat Movement, your opponent should be allowed to scramble.

[wheatbeer]

This is also confirmed in TripleA’s in-game Notes tab under "Rules specific to 1940 the engine does not do, but you must follow’

[Giallo]

Thanks wheatbeer!

[Omega1759]

Will the league use official rules with bid (2nd edition) or this is going to be a BM3 playoff?

Or will it be left to player’s discretion (e.g., both agree to do BM).

[simon33]

It’s BM3 unless both agree otherwise AFAIK.

[Omega1759]

@simon33:

It’s BM3 unless both agree otherwise AFAIK.

That seems odd, everyone has experience with the official 2nd edition but only a subset has BM3 experience.

[oysteilo]

@Omega1759:

@simon33:

It’s BM3 unless both agree otherwise AFAIK.

That seems odd, everyone has experience with the official 2nd edition but only a subset has BM3 experience.Â

I believe Omega1759 may demand 2nd ed With bid if he likes to, from the rules

4 - Game & rules - The default rules are the published G40 2nd edition rules, Regular Dice (also known as ADS or Actual Dice Server), No Technology, and Bidding to determine sides. 
Rules are available online here (Europe rules, then Pacific rules): http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/A&A_Europe_1940_2ndEd_Rulebook_LR.pdf
http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/A&A_Pacific_1940_2ndEd_Rulebook_LR.pdf

4a The default game rules may be modified by agreement of both players.  Low Luck or Tech, with or without Tech Tokens, is allowed if you and your opponent agree prior to bidding.  Balanced mod (see stickied League section thread for Balanced Mod rules) or any other ruleset using G40 is likewise allowed if agreed by players