2017 League General Discussion Thread

[aequitas-et-veritas]

@JDOW:

And Gentlemen, I hope somehow follows my call to reactivate inactive players. We need big community to keep the league interesting. So please, whenever you know anybody how became inactive, send him a message to play BM.

Still wondering: Who has a contact of Mr. Roboto. He was a former record holder for completing the most games during one season. I want him back HERE.

NOW

Amon-Sul is back and back in League Action!

Thought you wanted to know :-)

[JDOW]

Very happy about it, thanks for acknowledging, I also welcomed him back in the find opponents thread:)

[Amon-Sul]

@JDOW:

Very happy about it, thanks for acknowledging, I also welcomed him back in the find opponents thread:)

Karl is back from his Russia trip, so we are starting a classic duel  8-)

his kill kill kill against my defence hehe :lol:

[variance]

When can you start playing games that you intend to count for the 2018 league instead of this year’s?

[gamerman01]

Any time, because it all goes by when the game is completed.  So has nothing to do with when they start.

If you make sure your opponent agrees you should be good.  I mean, even if you finish before January 1, you can have the loser wait and report it in January.

[variance]

That’s great. Thanks Gamerman

[Amon-Sul]

@Gamerman01:

Any time, because it all goes by when the game is completed.  So has nothing to do with when they start.

If you make sure your opponent agrees you should be good.  I mean, even if you finish before January 1, you can have the loser wait and report it in January.

fair enough :)

[Gargantua]

@JDOW:

And Gentlemen, I hope somehow follows my call to reactivate inactive players. We need big community to keep the league interesting. So please, whenever you know anybody how became inactive, send him a message to play BM.

Still wondering: Who has a contact of Mr. Roboto. He was a former record holder for completing the most games during one season. I want him back HERE.

NOW

JDOW

There are 10486 register forum users at A&A.org (I seem to recall it was more? maybe some accounts have been deleted?).

Anyways, if we ask -real- nice; I bet we could get Djensen to send out a server wide message via email; inviting all members to play in the 2018 league, with maybe some basic instructions how to get tripleA setup.

I think you’d see a bunch of new people; and some old people return.  Even if %1 of people responded; that’s 100 Users.

[Karl7]

@Gargantua:

@JDOW:

And Gentlemen, I hope somehow follows my call to reactivate inactive players. We need big community to keep the league interesting. So please, whenever you know anybody how became inactive, send him a message to play BM.

Still wondering: Who has a contact of Mr. Roboto. He was a former record holder for completing the most games during one season. I want him back HERE.

NOW

JDOW

There are 10486 register forum users at A&A.org (I seem to recall it was more? maybe some accounts have been deleted?).

Anyways, if we ask -real- nice; I bet we could get Djensen to send out a server wide message via email; inviting all members to play in the 2018 league, with maybe some basic instructions how to get tripleA setup.

I think you’d see a bunch of new people; and some old people return.  Even if %1 of people responded; that’s 100 Users.

I second that!

[variance]

Aye

[Amon-Sul]

Which are the standings for axis vs allies in 2017 bm league?

which are better?

[gamerman01]

You can see Axis vs. Allies results for BM in the columns at the far right.  You can see the totals for each individual player and who they played.  Grand totals at the bottom.  Over-all the Allies are 130-117, but you can interpret details in different ways.

[gamerman01]

130-118 now
You really have to look at the details, because some of these games where a player was overmatched, it didn’t matter what side he played, he was going to lose.  I’ll do a quick number crunch of games excluding matches between players 2 or more tiers apart from each other.

[gamerman01]

Here is the data between opponents in the same tier or only 1 tier difference:
Tier M with Axis  8-4  .667
Tier M with Allies 13-5  .722

Tier E with Axis  18-20 .474
Tier E with Allies 13-14 .481

Tier 1 with Axis  35-28 .556
Tier 1 with Allies 38-29 .567

Tier 2 with Axis  22-36 .379
Tier 2 with Allies 27-32 .458

Tier 3 with Axis  2-5  .286
Tier 3 with Allies 2-5  .286

Interestingly, none of the tiers did better with the Axis than the Allies
Looks to me like the Allies have an edge.

[Adam514]

What’s also interesting is that tier 1 has a better win % than tier E!

[simon33]

@Adam514:

What’s also interesting is that tier 1 has a better win % than tier E!

Maybe E players play M players disproportionately.

[JDOW]

Yep, this should be the reason, I guess the population is a bit cut in half. Tier M players usually do only play players ranging from Tier M to 1, because otherwise even a win would drop their PPG. While a Tier 1 players usually play everyone.
Thus, in fact, if you play only the top competition you need only few wins to become Tier E.

[gamerman01]

@Adam514:

What’s also interesting is that tier 1 has a better win % than tier E!

This is because this data is only for opponents within 1 tier.

Tier E data includes playing tier M, tier E, and tier 1
Tier 1 data includes playing tier E, tier 1, and tier 2

The analysis was to look at whether the Axis or Allies win more, not to compare tiers.

[Karl7]

Having played the most BM games second only to Simon (I think that’s right), I’d say there is an Allied advantage.  Not huge or fatal, but one that grows over the course of the game.  If the Axis get stalled early, it’s probably lights out.

Instead of bid for Axis, I’d say Axis should get maybe a mulligan for G1 or something. In my current game w/Wheatbeer, Germany AND Italy got badly mauled by dice setting them too far back probably for victory.  A mulligan or reroll for Axis only would go a long way to countering this.

[Gargantua]

@Karl7:

Having played the most BM games second only to Simon (I think that’s right), I’d say there is an Allied advantage.  Not huge or fatal, but one that grows over the course of the game.  If the Axis get stalled early, it’s probably lights out.

Instead of bid for Axis, I’d say Axis should get maybe a mulligan for G1 or something. In my current game w/Wheatbeer, Germany AND Italy got badly mauled by dice setting them too far back probably for victory.  A mulligan or reroll for Axis only would go a long way to countering this.

Wheatbeer is enjoying the taste of those tears hahaha