Inno (Allies) + bomber bid vs. Blackskull (Axis) 42 2E

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 3 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from 3 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 cruiser moved from 3 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 8 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R.
            3 transports moved from 3 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 8 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
            4 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
            3 fighters moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Libya
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            1 infantry moved from Norway to 6 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 4 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R.

Combat - British
            Battle in Finland
                British attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour
                    British roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Finland, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Finland, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Finland
                British win, taking Finland from Germans with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Karelia S.S.R.
                British attack with 2 artilleries, 6 fighters and 6 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 aaGuns, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 10 infantry
                    AA fire in Karelia S.S.R. :  0/6 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 artilleries, 6 fighters and 6 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 :  3/14 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 10 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 :  3/16 hits
                    1 aaGun owned by the Germans, 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Karelia S.S.R.
                    British roll dice for 2 artilleries, 6 fighters and 3 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 3 :  3/11 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 7 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 3 :  9/13 hits
                    4 fighters owned by the British, 2 artilleries owned by the British, 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Karelia S.S.R.
                Germans win with 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -43
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 artilleries, 4 fighters and 6 infantry
                2 fighters owned by the British retreated
            Battle in Libya
                British attack with 3 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 armour
                    British roll dice for 3 fighters in Libya, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Libya, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Libya
                British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
            Battle in West Russia
                British attack with 4 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 4 infantry in West Russia, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in West Russia, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in West Russia
                British win, taking West Russia from Germans with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 3 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia
            2 fighters moved from Libya to Morocco
            1 submarine moved from 23 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            3 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 28 PUs; end with 29 PUs total
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Russia: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 5 Sea Zone: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Territory Summary for British :

5 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 4 transports
    21 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Eastern Australia : 2 infantry
    Finland : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Morocco : 2 fighters
    Russia : 2 infantry
    United Kingdom : 3 artilleries, 1 factory and 5 infantry
    West Russia : 1 flag, 4 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 14 / 16
    Germans : 41 / 44
    British : 28 / 29
    Japanese : 46 / 47
    Americans : 39 / 45

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 3 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from 3 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 cruiser moved from 3 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 8 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R.
            3 transports moved from 3 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 8 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
            4 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
            3 fighters moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Libya
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            1 infantry moved from Norway to 6 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 4 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R.

Combat - British
            Battle in Finland
                British attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour
                    British roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Finland, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Finland, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Finland
                British win, taking Finland from Germans with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Karelia S.S.R.
                British attack with 2 artilleries, 6 fighters and 6 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 aaGuns, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 10 infantry
                    AA fire in Karelia S.S.R. :  0/6 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 artilleries, 6 fighters and 6 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 :  3/14 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 10 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 :  3/16 hits
                    1 aaGun owned by the Germans, 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Karelia S.S.R.
                    British roll dice for 2 artilleries, 6 fighters and 3 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 3 :  3/11 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 7 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 3 :  9/13 hits
                    4 fighters owned by the British, 2 artilleries owned by the British, 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Karelia S.S.R.
                Germans win with 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -43
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 artilleries, 4 fighters and 6 infantry
                2 fighters owned by the British retreated
            Battle in Libya
                British attack with 3 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 armour
                    British roll dice for 3 fighters in Libya, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Libya, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Libya
                British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
            Battle in West Russia
                British attack with 4 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 4 infantry in West Russia, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in West Russia, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in West Russia
                British win, taking West Russia from Germans with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 3 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia
            2 fighters moved from Libya to Morocco
            1 submarine moved from 23 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            3 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 28 PUs; end with 29 PUs total
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Russia: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 5 Sea Zone: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 5 Sea Zone: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Russia: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Territory Summary for British :

5 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 4 transports
    21 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Eastern Australia : 2 infantry
    Finland : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Morocco : 2 fighters
    Russia : 2 fighters and 2 infantry
    United Kingdom : 3 artilleries, 1 factory and 5 infantry
    West Russia : 1 flag, 4 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 14 / 16
    Germans : 41 / 44
    British : 28 / 29
    Japanese : 46 / 47
    Americans : 39 / 45

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no more luck this time… :cry:

[Blackskull]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 4 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            2 fighters moved from Persia to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Russia
            1 artillery moved from Sinkiang to Evenki National Okrug
                  Japanese take Evenki National Okrug from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia S.S.R. to Yakut S.S.R.
                  Japanese take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians
            1 armour moved from Manchuria to Soviet Far East
                  Japanese take Soviet Far East from Russians
            2 armour moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R.

Combat - Japanese
            Strategic bombing raid in Russia
                    AA fire in Russia :  0/1 hits
                Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 4 and causes: 4 damage to unit: factory
                Bombing raid in Russia causes 4 damage total.
            Battle in Egypt
                Japanese attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Egypt, round 2 :  3/6 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Egypt, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Egypt
                Japanese win, taking Egypt from British with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Persia to Caucasus
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Caucasus
            3 armour moved from India to Caucasus
            2 fighters moved from Egypt to Persia
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 62 Sea Zone to Buryatia S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from Manchuria to Hawaiian Islands
            1 transport moved from 53 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Solomon Islands to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 53 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 transport moved from 53 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 52 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 52 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 53 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 bomber moved from Russia to Persia

Place Units - Japanese
            1 transport placed in 35 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry placed in India
            1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Manchuria
            1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs total

Territory Summary for Japanese :

35 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    53 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 transports
    62 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    Alaska : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Anhwei : 1 flag
    Borneo : 1 infantry
    Burma : 1 flag
    Buryatia S.S.R. : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Caroline Islands : 1 infantry
    Caucasus : 4 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry
    East Indies : 2 infantry
    Egypt : 1 flag, 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Evenki National Okrug : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 flag, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
    India : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 factory and 1 infantry
    Iwo Jima : 1 infantry
    Japan : 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 factory and 1 infantry
    Kazakh S.S.R. : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Manchuria : 1 armour, 1 factory and 2 infantry
    New Guinea : 1 infantry
    Novosibirsk : 1 flag
    Okinawa : 1 infantry
    Persia : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
    Sinkiang : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Soviet Far East : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Szechwan : 1 flag
    Yakut S.S.R. : 1 flag, 2 armour and 1 infantry
    Yunnan : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 11 / 16
    Germans : 41 / 44
    British : 26 / 29
    Japanese : 51 / 51
    Americans : 39 / 45

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[Blackskull]

The full turn ends after US, so the Allies luck depends on that loney armor division…

[Blackskull]

Do you want to start a new game and this time Ill play the Allies.

How many PUs are you preparred to give the Allies - I am positive that I can’t take you out with the extra bomber. What do you think will give a balanced game?

If you prefer to keep playing the Allies, its fine too.

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Sure. I will play Axis :-D  Please select the bid you think it’s appropriate and I will try my best.  i think as long as each territory permits only 1 addition it’s fine.

About the game ending condition, I think exactly the way you think until one day an opponent questioned me and thought the correct behaviour should be a complete game turn including US movement.  When I double checked the manual also didn’t say this very clearly, though this rule does apply in 40 global.  The current TripleA follows the behaviour you suggest though, so I’m not sure which one is right.

I will ask this in 42 2E for clarification… Let see what other expert says :-D

[innohub]

just clarified…and you are exactly right :-).