@mr-kell
I also thought of that. I think that’s a good idea.
MOVIES 2017
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@Imperious:
Most comic book movies are the same, in both formula and content, not to mention believeability.
Like hot plastic pressed into a toy for mass consumption. They never engage the mind or sentiments other than base feelings and are based on whimsical every 20 seconds of special effects and horrible acting. Look at how these movies are always marketed. Always fast food and snacks tied into the promo because they understand their audience well. Its a turn off mind movie. IMO ( don’t mean to argue the point).
For the vast majority of comic/superhero movies, I certainly agree. They don’t care to rise above their genre because there is a safe bet of lots of money in staying dumb, predictable and bombastic.
I don’t know… perhaps Batman is the superhero best suited to a grounded film adaptation. He isn’t supernaturally blessed with abnormal abilities. He is a flawed human with reasonable motivations and resources. The Dark Knight movies are the only comic films I can wholeheartedly recommend as approaching if not meeting your standards. It was a perfect storm of subject matter, director, actors and script that made for such engaging and well crafted movies.
At most you will lose a couple hours of your life. :wink:
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Did you catch Logan? That movie was awesome, and not a super-hero costume to be seen anywhere in the movie… way more engaging than anything DC has put-out, including the Batman movies… I’m not even really a fan of the X-men, but my son wanted to see Logan, so we went, and wow, that was a really fantastic movie that was nothing like any “superhero” movie I’ve seen before.
Speaking of DC and Batman movies… I caught a recent trailer for Justice League… and someone asks Batman what his superpower is… his reply? “I’m really rich”. I lol’d that line.
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I have heard that Logan is fantastic. Probably going to wait until I can rent it though. I tend to only go see films in theater that I am highly interested in or anticipated for some time (e.g. Dunkirk).
The later X-men films have been much better than earlier ones, but it was never a franchise I was very interested in. The seemingly inconsistent way that 20th Century Fox has handled the brand kinda turned me off too. Granted X-Men (2000) was what I would call the very first of the modern super hero, comic book film genre (post-90s). It (and Spiderman 2002) began the glut of super hero films we have now. Still going strong almost 20 years later. Back to X-Men… I don’t think the idea of a cinematic universe existed back in 1999-2000. And I doubt they could have known that the franchise would be so profitable, so I cannot entirely blame 20th Century Fox for all the faults I see in the X-men franchise. They didn’t know what they were doing and I am judging from a more modern perspective.
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You and I may be similar on the X-Men franchise… I actually saw several of the earlier X-men movies, but neither the comic series nor the movie franchise was really my cup of tea… the franchise also has been plagued by a lot of incontinuity issues as they jump around a lot and contradict itself at the same time… I had skipped over the last few X-men movies and only saw Logan because my son loves Wolverine and really really wanted to go, so I took the family.
Having said that, and my personal views of the X-men franchise… I was deeply moved by Logan… it was a really, Really, REALLY good movie… so this is not some X-men fan-boy reaction to the movie… it was so good, it makes me want to go back and see the other movies I missed (like Days of Future Past)… I might regret the decision to go back and dig up the X-men movies I missed, but Logan was so good, I want to see all of them now.
Marvel has been hitting movies really right lately, especially the entire Avengers franchise and its supporting cast of Super Hero movies and tie-ins… Logan is really a quality movie but it’s not really comparable with any other Marvel movie other than the fact Marvel hit this one out of the park. If only Marvel had treated the X-men franchise as well as they treated the Avengers and Logan movie… that would have been something.
Oh, and PS… if you do go see Logan in theater… yes, it’s a Marvel movie, but NO… don’t wait till the end of the credits… Logan was far too serious to put a sneak peak at the end of the credits… in fact, the sneak peak is at the beginning of Logan… so when the movie ends, go ahead and leave the theatre, you won’t miss anything!
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Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox can’t act their way out of a bag. The worst actors in History
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Having said that, and my personal views of the X-men franchise… I was deeply moved by Logan… it was a really, Really, REALLY good movie… so this is not some X-men fan-boy reaction to the movie… it was so good, it makes me want to go back and see the other movies I missed (like Days of Future Past)… I might regret the decision to go back and dig up the X-men movies I missed, but Logan was so good, I want to see all of them now.
I always thought X2 was good for some reason. Seems a bit pedestrian by today’s standards, but it has a good story to it. First Class and Days of Future past were decent. The actors are great and there are some excellent moments. (Fall into middle category below)
I guess that I have three categories of films:
- those that aren’t worth watching
- those that are worth watching for cultural or entertainment value and
- those that are of high quality or appeal and have a re-watchability that merits actually owning them
X-Men (2000) is terrible. Particularly when viewed in 2017. It is outright corny. Supposedly it was well received at the time, but I don’t get it. It’s worth watching if you truly intend to go back and see them all, if only to get perspective on where the franchise began. But last time I saw it I didn’t have a good opinion.
All the rest of the movies blur together for me. I remember seeing X-Men Origins: Wolverine and being underwhelmed.
Marvel has been hitting movies really right lately, especially the entire Avengers franchise and its supporting cast of Super Hero movies and tie-ins… Logan is really a quality movie but it’s not really comparable with any other Marvel movie other than the fact Marvel hit this one out of the park. If only Marvel had treated the X-men franchise as well as they treated the Avengers and Logan movie… that would have been something.
I don’t mind a film that stands on its own as excellent, even if it is part of a series. As long as it can be watched as a single film. Iron Man was like that for me. I love the first one… the sequels not so much.
As for Marvel’s involvement, I know that in the first two films it was basically zero. At least their name isn’t associated with the production. So they weren’t able to give input on the basis of the series. Seems like they came in the middle and gradually have been given more creative sway. Kinda similar to the 5 Spiderman films we have had up to now. Spiderman is a Marvel character, but Sony had total creative rights on the films and didn’t have to coordinate them with Marvel’s input or future plans.
Clearly both Sony and 20th Century Fox have hedged their bets a little and cooperated with Marvel/Disney to some degree now. I think they have at least partly recognized that Disney is both doing it right and has established something so massive that it is better to work together than try to compete. At least in regards to these two properties.
Oh, and PS… if you do go see Logan in theater… yes, it’s a Marvel movie, but NO… don’t wait till the end of the credits… Logan was far too serious to put a sneak peak at the end of the credits… in fact, the sneak peak is at the beginning of Logan… so when the movie ends, go ahead and leave the theatre, you won’t miss anything!
Good. I think the post credits crap is annoying.
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@Imperious:
Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox can’t act their way out of a bag. The worst actors in History
Good thing they aren’t in any of these movies then.
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One thing I have to say about DC’s attempt at a cinematic universe is I can’t stand how they continue to double down on Zach Snyder’s drab and dark color palettes. To IL’s point Marvel/Disney have a formula down pat, but it works for the most part. One of the factors are the brighter lighting and colors, which invigorates the film. While those films have plenty of flaws, they’re often much easier to sit through.
I’m not a comic book guy either but I do wish we got a straight adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns instead of having elements of it be sprinkled into films.
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One thing I have to say about DC’s attempt at a cinematic universe is I can’t stand how they continue to double down on Zach Snyder’s drab and dark color palettes. To IL’s point Marvel/Disney have a formula down pat, but it works for the most part. One of the factors are the brighter lighting and colors, which invigorates the film. While those films have plenty of flaws, they’re often much easier to sit through.
I could not agree with you more.
I was actually looking over DCs films trying to comprehend how and why Zack Snyder is the architect of their whole universe. I figured it had to be due to the success of 300 and the cult appeal of Watchmen. But his style is so unique (in a bad way) that it pollutes everything it touches. There are elements of his films that can be visually beautiful, but 95% of the time it feels overproduced, unbelievable and too visually perfect. The aesthetic and tone prevent his films from being taken seriously.
I just don’t know why DC/WB gave this guy the keys to their classic car. He’s wrecking it.
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I am waiting on the SW 8 Trailer for this year. Also it is confirmed I think, that they are going to make a Han Spin-Off next year.
Thor - Ragnarök is coming out this year. Has anyone else watched the Trailer of it yet?
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Confirmed… Carrie Fisher will be staring in Star Wars Episode 9… yes, that’s not a typo… not Episode 8 (which she already filmed), she will be staring in Episode 9 as well.
Mickey Mouse and Goofy paid a visit to the Fisher family and “after negotiations” they all agreed Carrie should star in Episode 9.
Carrie Fisher was right when she said she didn’t even own her own body.
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Has anyone seen the Fate of the Furious yet? I need to know if its OK to take my little brother to see it(He’s 11).
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I can’t think of a better movie to take an 11-year old boy to see. :-D
It’s PG-13 and from what I can remember there’s not much swearing, plus there’s no gore to speak of. There’s plenty of expected cleavage and skin for the Havana race setting (one of the best sequences in the movie) but nothing else.
As a caper movie series (5 and 6 being the best) it’s grown bigger and bigger (from taking down a tank and a plane in 6 to jumping from planes and skyscrapers in 7 to the sub in this one) but I wouldn’t mind for them to end the series on a smaller scale and revert back to the basics of fast cars. But it would be perfectly fine for Jason Statham and the Rock to have their own spinoff movie.
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I can’t think of a better movie to take an 11-year old boy to see. :-D
It’s PG-13 and from what I can remember there’s not much swearing, plus there’s no gore to speak of. There’s plenty of expected cleavage and skin for the Havana race setting (one of the best sequences in the movie) but nothing else.
As a caper movie series (5 and 6 being the best) it’s grown bigger and bigger (from taking down a tank and a plane in 6 to jumping from planes and skyscrapers in 7 to the sub in this one) but I wouldn’t mind for them to end the series on a smaller scale revert back to the basics of fast cars. But it would be perfectly fine for Jason Statham and the Rock to have their own spinoff movie.
Thanks man. He will enjoy, i am certain.
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Should be the final trailer for Dunkirk:
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Should be the final trailer for Dunkirk:
Damn. Looks awesome.
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Reminds me of The Battle of Britain in style.
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@Imperious:
Reminds me of The Battle of Britain in style.
Almost exactly so; very good comparison. It has the appeal of a 70s epic war film.
Especially with the narrative seemingly to lack focus on a single character or group of characters. Nolan disclosed that there are three separate story lines: land, air and sea.
Beyond the startlingly realistic visual appeal, the trailers haven’t been earth-shatteringly dramatic. But I think that is good, there doesn’t appear to be a lot of action fluff. I am really looking forward to seeing it.
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Just saw Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.
Thought the first was overrated, but this one was actually quite good.
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Thanks for the link to The trailer, Hoffman. I Cannot wait.
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