BM2 Tallyrand19 (L) vs simon33 (X)

[simon33]

@Talleyrand19:

sorry, is that scramble out of West Germany (wouldn’t do that to you haha, your planes would get immediately killed)…

but you still want me to scramble in the pacific, right?

Correct. No scramble W Germany.

Scramble 2ftr 1tac Midway.

[Talleyrand19]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod with Combat Move First, version: 2.1

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - British
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries, 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 5 infantry and 5 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 fighters and 11 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria
                  British take Syria from Italians
            1 mech_infantry moved from West India to 79 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 3 fighters, 6 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - British
            Battle in Western Germany
                British attack with 6 artilleries, 5 fighters and 16 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 5 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 8 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British converts factory_major into different units
                British win, taking Western Germany from Germans with 3 artilleries and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries, 3 fighters, 8 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 3 artilleries and 16 infantry
            Battle in Sumatra

Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to West India
            1 bomber moved from Persia to West India
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers and 1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 93 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            5 aaGuns moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco

Place Units - British
            3 fighters placed in Persia
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Iraq
            1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
            5 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1,1,1,5,2,2,1,2
            British collect 32 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 32 PUs total
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

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[simon33]

If I scrambled to SZ112, you would only have 3dd 1CV, right? Wouldn’t I do that?

[Talleyrand19]

why wouldn’t I have everything that’s in there? like the american ships aren’t missing, right? or is that not the rule?

[simon33]

@Talleyrand19:

why wouldn’t I have everything that’s in there? like the american ships aren’t missing, right? or is that not the rule?

American ships/planes don’t participate on the attack. I was wondering if you were thinking that. Do you want to redo the turn?

[Talleyrand19]

yeah, I’m still confused though, can’t the americans just take hits for the transports without actually firing on your planes…so they are there as a meat shield only? otherwise would the transports sink despite being literally surrounded by ships (if your scramble sank my british only forces)? don’t know what the rule is on that, but if that’s the case, then yeah, appreciate the offer to redo

[simon33]

I’m sure about the rule but I can’t find it. I’ll post a question.

[Talleyrand19]

I think you’re right,  I posted a question for my own learning though, that really doesn’t make any sense to me, I look at it the same way as using allies planes to defend since fighting off a scramble is a defensive-Like move…let me know what you hear back…

And if you are right,  do you want me to start from America and reroll every single battle or just edit my way up to British turn? I think my moves will be the same except taking one british fighter out of West Germany and into sz112 to have huge advantage vs scram

[simon33]

Just redo the british turn.

[Talleyrand19]

let this be a lesson to myself to always post america and china…gonna have to edit a bunch of shit, bear with me and thank you

[Talleyrand19]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod with Combat Move First, version: 2.1

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - Americans

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 6 infantry, 5 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 2 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 99 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 4 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            5 submarines and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            3 fighters placed in Western United States
            1 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Holland Belgium
            3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux

Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,3
            Americans collect 61 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 61 PUs total
            Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 86 PUs

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[Talleyrand19]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod with Combat Move First, version: 2.1

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - Chinese

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Shensi to Szechwan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 14 PUs; end with 16 PUs total

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[Talleyrand19]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod with Combat Move First, version: 2.1

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries, 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 5 infantry and 5 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 artilleries, 4 fighters and 11 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria
                  British take Syria from Italians
            1 mech_infantry moved from West India to 79 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 79 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 3 fighters, 6 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - British

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[Talleyrand19]

don’t know why the Edits didn’t show up, but you can compare maps and it should all check out, think I just need to move one American plane to make them match…and so now do you scramble against the British?

and thanks again, too many damn rules in this game haha

[simon33]

Scramble 3 ftrs.

[Talleyrand19]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod with Combat Move First, version: 2.1

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries, 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 5 infantry and 5 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 artilleries, 4 fighters and 11 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria
                  British take Syria from Italians
            1 mech_infantry moved from West India to 79 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 79 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 3 fighters, 6 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - British
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 112 Sea Zone
            Germans scrambles to create a battle in territory 112 Sea Zone
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter and 5 transports; Americans loiter and taunt
                Germans defend with 3 fighters
                British win with 1 fighter and 5 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
                Casualties for Germans: 3 fighters
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier and 3 destroyers
            Battle in Western Germany
                British attack with 6 artilleries, 4 fighters and 16 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 5 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour, 8 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British converts factory_major into different units
                British win, taking Western Germany from Germans with 6 artilleries, 3 fighters and 11 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries, 8 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter and 5 infantry
            Battle in Sumatra

Non Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 112 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to West India
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            5 aaGuns moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 93 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 99 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Normandy Bordeaux: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 fighters placed in Persia
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Iraq
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Iraq: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Trans-Jordan: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 88 Sea Zone: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 88 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 91 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Morocco: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            5 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,2,3,2,2,1,1,2
            British collect 32 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 32 PUs total
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

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[Talleyrand19]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod with Combat Move First, version: 2.1

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries, 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 5 infantry and 5 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 artilleries, 4 fighters and 11 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria
                  British take Syria from Italians
            1 mech_infantry moved from West India to 79 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 79 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 3 fighters, 6 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - British
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 112 Sea Zone
            Germans scrambles to create a battle in territory 112 Sea Zone
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter and 5 transports; Americans loiter and taunt
                Germans defend with 3 fighters
                British win with 1 fighter and 5 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
                Casualties for Germans: 3 fighters
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier and 3 destroyers
            Battle in Western Germany
                British attack with 6 artilleries, 4 fighters and 16 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 5 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour, 8 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British converts factory_major into different units
                British win, taking Western Germany from Germans with 6 artilleries, 3 fighters and 11 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries, 8 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter and 5 infantry
            Battle in Sumatra

Non Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 112 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to West India
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            5 aaGuns moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 93 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 99 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Normandy Bordeaux: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 fighters placed in Persia
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Iraq
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Iraq: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Trans-Jordan: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 88 Sea Zone: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 88 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 91 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Morocco: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            5 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,2,3,2,2,1,1,2
            British collect 32 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 32 PUs total
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 41 Sea Zone: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to West India: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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[simon33]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod with Combat Move First, version: 2.1

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 armour moved from Rhodesia to South West Africa
                  Italians take South West Africa from British
            1 armour moved from South West Africa to Rhodesia
            1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            2 fighters moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Greece

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Italians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians win, taking Northern Italy from Americans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Trans-Jordan
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 artillery
                Italians win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 2 fighters
                Americans defend with 1 artillery
                Italians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Italians: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery

Non Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            2 destroyers moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Trans-Jordan to 95 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone

Place Units - Italians
            1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 95 Sea Zone
            1 factory_minor placed in Egypt

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 23 PUs; end with 24 PUs total
            Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 27 PUs

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[Talleyrand19]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod with Combat Move First, version: 2.1

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from South Australia to Northern Territory
                  ANZAC take Northern Territory from Japanese

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            1 artillery moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales
            3 fighters moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 54 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 62 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2,5
            ANZAC collect 7 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 7 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 10 PUs

triplea_39070_ANZ8.tsvg

[Talleyrand19]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod with Combat Move First, version: 2.1

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

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