Education Reform

[Guest]

Skip the NEA, which has its own agenda.

Try the US Department of Labor.  AVERAGE teacher salary in the US is around $50,000.  Starting teacher salaray national average (as of 7 years ago) was 24,000.  Why do I know that?  Because North Carolina had a law mandating starting teacher salaries be raised to the national average by 2000, and that figure ended up being just over $24,000.

[Guest]

And while you are slandering me, how about pointing out all of the “claims” I have made regarding the careers of my relatives.

[Jennifer]

@ncscswitch:

And while you are slandering me, how about pointing out all of the “claims” I have made regarding the careers of my relatives.

Just about every thread seems to have you piping up that you or your relative did XYZ.  It’s rather amazing how large your family is or how incapable they are of holding a career they are.  Must be one or the other, because I seem to remember you saying they were doctors, lawyers, judges, politicians, teachers, administrators, truckers, vetinarians, oceanographers, climatologists, etc.

Whatever happens to fit the discussion.

As for the use of the word “slander”  Prove it is slander.  Innocent until proven guilty.  You are accusing me, slanderously and libelously, of slandering you.  Prove that I slandered you.

Otherwise, back down and realize you have a personal vendetta against me that you cannot get over that artifically colors all your thoughts and comments resulting in inadvertant (at least I hope it is inadvertant) and persistent slander and libulous statements about me, my character and those I chose to use as sources for support of my arguements.

[Guest]

Please post a SINGLE post of mine in support of your allegation that I ahve ever claimed tha tmy family were ANY of the thigns you have listed…

Otherwise Jen, I am calling slander on you in this thread.  You have 24 hours to search these forums for a single iota of proof of your claim.

Otherwise, I demand a formal apology for your slander.

And yes, I can prove slander, I have 11,000 plus posts to back up my statement that I never made any such claim.

[Jennifer]

And I have 10000 plus posts to support mine.

You are accusing me of slander, it is your LEGAL responsibility to PROVE your case.  It is not MY responsiblity to prove my innocence.  Welcome to America my friend.

[Guest]

Here is the link…

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php

No where do I say that my family consists of doctors, lawyers, vets, etc.

[Jennifer]

Gee, way to link the main page.  That does NOT support your accusation I engaged in felonious criminal activity against you.

If you want to accuse me of felonious criminal activity, as you are currently, I highly recommend you put up or shut up.  Or you could apologize for slandering me and defaming my character with the purpose and intent to character assassinate me because you are inept at destroying my arguements.

[Baghdaddy]

@Janus1:

There once was a troll named Jen…

I would stand clear of this if I were you.

Dog piling won’t help either of them.

[Guest]

I am done with you Jen.

You have violated board polices, not for the first time, and not without many warnings.

Your fate now lies in the hands of DJensen and Yanny.  I wash my hands of you.

[Jennifer]

@Janus1:

There once was a poster named Jen…

Sides if you want to give me a mythical name, how about a Demoness or a Mermaid?

Anyway, I’m just defending myself from character assassination.

And hopefully Yanny and Djensen will realize I am perfectly within board policies to defend myself from said Character assassination.  If not, well, I guess that’s a shame.  I can always call my Internet Provider, ask for an IP reset, and make a new account. :)

[AgentOrange]

Why would an online debate EVER revert into a mudslinging match?  My roommate, friends, girlfriend, etc., and I do not always agree.  But when we DISagree, we don’t resort to insulting the other party.  We manage to talk through the problem, but IF one does insult the other with some kind of personal attack, then the insult is made known, and the discussion proceeds in a more diplomatic fashion…

Not quite what I’m seeing here.  Both of you have moved completely away from the topic because you’re obviously getting pissed off at each other.  And I don’t care to hear any bullsht about “he/she started it first” because that doesn’t help any - in fact, it fckin makes me sick.  SO I ask:  What the Hell is wrong here?

[Jennifer]

I have privately offered Switch an olive branch, I will make that offer public.

If NCSCSwitch apologizes for engaging in a campaign of character assassination against my character and promises to return only to debating the topics, I will do the same.  Honestly, throwing his attacks back time and time again is as boring as trying to invade Japan with America when you have 4 transports and a Battleship and he has 100 infantry.  Sure, you can eventually reduce him to a small stack you can defeat, but honestly, the effort is too boring to deal with.

[Guest]

To come back on topic…

Source:  Annual American Federation of Teachers Wage Survey for Teachers
As reported on FM101.1 Greensboro, NC on the noon news today…

National Average Teacher Salary:  $47,600
North Carolina Average:  $43,300 (ranked 24th in the nation).

Those are American Federation of Teachers stats as released this week.  Note that this figure is nearly double the previously posted figure in this thread.