16L BM2 hobo (axis) vs simon33 (allies)

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 2 factory_minors, 3 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            2 units repaired.
            1 armour, 3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Szechwan
            2 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
            2 fighters moved from 37 Sea Zone to Szechwan
            1 artillery moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 44 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 battleship moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 artillery moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Yunnan

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 7 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 4 artilleries, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 2 aaGuns, 2 armour, 6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                UK_Pacific win with 2 armour, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is -19
                Casualties for British: 2 aaGuns and 4 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 5 infantry
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese retreated
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Szechwan
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 8 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 1 fighter and 10 infantry; Russians defend with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese win with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter and 10 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
            1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 7 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from Guam to 21 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
            2 destroyers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 44 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 42 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Shan State to 37 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to Hunan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Hunan
            2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Szechwan to Hunan
            1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 44 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from Hopei to Chahar
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe

Place Units - Japanese
            1 factory_minor placed in Kwangtung
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu
            1 infantry placed in Japan
            1 factory_minor placed in Shantung
            1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 47 PUs; end with 47 PUs total
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Hunan: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 36 Sea Zone: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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[hobo]

use second post, tac from shan state lands on carrier instead

[simon33]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from India to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to Yunnan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Shan State to Malaya
                  UK_Pacific take Malaya from Japanese
            1 armour moved from Shan State to French Indo China
                  UK_Pacific take Siam from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China

Combat - British
            Battle in Yunnan
                British attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 mech_infantry
                British win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in French Indo China
                British attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 marine
                British win, taking French Indo China from Japanese with 1 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 marine

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to India
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Persia
            1 infantry moved from West India to India
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Shan State to India

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 9
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 41 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2,6,3,5,5,3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 36 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,3,5,3
            UK_Pacific collect 8 PUs (9 lost to blockades); end with 8 PUs total
            Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 11 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 3 infantry

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[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour moved from Belgian Congo to Union of South Africa
                  Italians take Rhodesia from British
                  Italians take Union of South Africa from British
            1 infantry moved from Kenya to Tanganyika Territory
                  Italians take Tanganyika Territory from British
            1 bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Persia
            3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Persia
            2 fighters moved from Egypt to Persia
            1 armour moved from Egypt to French Equatorial Africa
                  Italians take French Equatorial Africa from French
            1 marine moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
                  Italians take Ukraine from Russians
            1 armour moved from Belarus to Bryansk
                  Italians take Bryansk from Russians
            1 armour moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                  Italians take Baltic States from Russians

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Gibraltar
            Battle in Persia
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                British defend with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber; Russians defend with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians win, taking Gibraltar from British, taking Persia from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
                Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 fighters moved from Persia to Iraq
            1 bomber moved from Persia to Trans-Jordan
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria
                  Italians take Syria from Neutral_Axis
            2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            3 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
                  Italians take Morocco from Neutral_Axis

Place Units - Italians
            1 bomber and 1 fighter placed in Southern Italy
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Egypt

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6,5,5
            Italians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs total
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 42 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
            Objective Italians 3 North Africa Control: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 56 PUs

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[simon33]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 54 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,2,1
            ANZAC collect 8 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 8 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 11 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 14 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs

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[simon33]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

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[hobo]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 13 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 109 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to 123 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 2 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  Germans take Finland from Russians
            1 armour moved from Novgorod to Finland
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            4 bombers moved from Western Germany to 123 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone

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[hobo]

scramble iceland?

[simon33]

scramble 2ftrs

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 13 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 109 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to 123 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 2 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  Germans take Finland from Russians
            1 armour moved from Novgorod to Finland
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            4 bombers moved from Western Germany to 123 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Americans scrambles 2 units out of Iceland to defend against the attack in 123 Sea Zone
            Battle in 123 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 4 bombers, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters and 3 transports
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                Germans win with 4 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 57
                Casualties for Germans: 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters and 3 transports
            Battle in 83 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 123 Sea Zone to Scotland
            3 aaGuns, 3 infantry and 1 marine moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
            4 bombers moved from 123 Sea Zone to Scotland
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 127 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Novgorod
            3 aaGuns, 4 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 11 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            5 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Finland
            5 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Novgorod
            3 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            9 infantry placed in Germany
            1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine placed in 110 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs

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[simon33]

I concede.

[hobo]

thanks for the game, was interesting

still on the fence if this is truly balanced. russia is helped and that’s a bonus. still, I normally give the 16-20 ipc bid all to uk in the normal game since they really need it to help limit the damage in the first turn.

[simon33]

People are starting to suggest that it biases the Allies.

Fatal error allowing that Sea Lion.

[hobo]

it was a mistake to give germany a high odds low loss battle for uk, but you actually came out of that battle ahead. sealion is really 50/50, I usually don’t even go for it unless its a high odds/low loss battle. if I can take uk with equal loss, I probably wouldn’t go for it. the usa can go full in and russia can press hard. you just didn’t follow up enough the turn you know uk would fall. I would have had 3 carriers plus a few support able to sit at gib the turn uk fell that couldn’t be counterattacked, and russia on germany’s border (having too many guys in going for finland isn’t the best choice imho).