@Koningstiger:

I wonder how they handled this during “playtesting”.

I also wonder what the general consensus was on the unrestricted submarine warfare rule as written. Did they really not notice during playtesting that this rule was entirely uselless in this form?

Well i can imagine the playtesters saying “tts in europe too small we need marshaling cards”
And WOC saying “ok…wait that cost more money, F*** that”
WOC also says “Play testing over, we will fix any problems in the 2nd editions while taking every ones money again”

Koningstiger: I worry that Austria attacking Albania is the same as amphibiously landing in Tuscany: it cannot be held. Albania is in SZ 17(Italy’s sphere) and they can always drop two men and bombard(Austrian Artillery would lessen the impact of course). UK and France probably want their navies in that SZ too, therefore eliminating any Austrian incursion out of the Adriatic.

Yah, I use the gray/green for AH.

First look and play at the game at Greg Smorey’s Spring gathering. I was Russia.

The CP decided on a three way march to attack Russia. We only got 3 turns in, but I saw enough of the game to know I’d like to buy it.

I did buy a fighter Russia 1 (after Austria bought 1) and it did help against the german hordes when I managed air superiority for 1 round.

Dave, great teaming with you. (Dave was France and UK).

I do think for tournament play the game needs at least 6 hrs.

I thought he meant that both sides are wiped out.

Syracuse lost… I came in Second :(

That’s exactly right, why should a stupid piece of land come between two best friends who fought each other many times since 1800….previous animosities have no effect on future relationships.

Just like Hitler and Stalin joining together 1939. Neither of them had any suspicion of the other and knew the 10 year pact would be able to be renewed. They must have figured the pact would last into 1979. It was so obvious right?

@Flashman:

The other main objective is that the SZs bordering Africa have no mines, which should make naval combat more lively; the CP fleets can link up, or invade north Africa.

That definitely think that could change things up a lot.  Those mines in SZ17 and the large allied fleets make any early AH naval plans difficult.

1914 Italians look like Japs.

1914 Russians look like 1940 Italians.

I do wish they would keep the same colors,

BUT…i do love the new UK color over the old UK

This is why my Civil War rules have the Bolsheviks controlled by Germany/CPs, and the Whites being the remaining original Russians still under Allied control.

Lenin did everything he could to broker a treaty granting half of Russia to the Germans, then had to fight off the Allies who wanted to reopen the eastern front against Germany.

I’m surprised people are reporting that the CPs can knock out Russia, then turn west. Why are the British not moving into Karelia and Sevastopol to retake CP conquests?

@KimRYoung:

Question,

Since you used the optional Russian Revolution rules, did youuse the rules from the game, or the new revisions from Krieg?

Thanks, looks like you had a great game!

Kim

Thanks, Kim.  I used the Russian Revolution rules from Krieg, which is great because that is how I was planning on playing anyway.  Make no mistake, RR is a GREAT thing for the Central Powers.  (Frankly, I think I even prefer it over capturing Moscow in retrospect.)

The tanks don’t really get rolling like you said until turns 7-9, but that is when you are going to need them. Our last game the CP won was around 16 turns, so got lots of use of the tanks.

Kim

No, attacking a colony has no effect on the parent country.  For example, Spanish Morocco is a free pick up for France without any consequences.

So, is Obama a fool? Looks like we might find out very soon now.

It does’n’t seem to match up too well in Venice, though.

My board is just about perfect, fortunately.

Absolutely, freaking love this game.  Love it even more than WWII 1942 I think.  More interesting gameplay, more historically accurate IMHO (e.g. Russia was never under threat of attack by Japan, Japan’s more critical to the success of the Axis than Germany, etc.), more interesting powers, and I love all the optional/delayed stuff (Russian Revolution, unrestricted sub warfare, U.S. entry on 4th turn, tank purchase beginning on the 4th turn, etc.).  Can’t wait to play again!  :-D

Because of amphibious assaults.

You can’t have boat loads of infantry waiting around in sea zones for the end of a naval battle that might last for months.

I still think ships should be allowed to retreat from combat, however.

Allowing planes to retreat after a round of aerial combat is another idea, but what happens to planes that withdraw and then have nowhere to land because their side has been wiped out on the ground?

You could allow them to retreat to a friendly tt, but that in effect gives them an extra movement point, and it seems to go against the game mechanics.

And we may also point out that some here are no longer interested in anything more than trolling and hijacking this thread. Arguments could still be brought up with proper links to support this thing about Italy and Austria joining up, but alas we are now dealing with typos and trolling.

Remember to have enough infantry saved to allow you to split up your force when you need to.
Or you’re liable to get an army stuck in Moscow…