We were talking about if it CAN happen, not if it is a good idea or likely to happen

@MEGAEINSTEIN:

in AAG40 SU recieves no ipcs for japanese agression

I think he’s refering to the proposed rule changes, which would give either Japan or SU 10 IPCs when the other breaks the truce.

@cts17:

The Germans must get past the British fleet before they can conduct Sealion, people.

Before you rant at me and call me retarded by saying the Brits have no fleet, consider this:

It’s because you never built one.

If they build one, Germans go around the island and land in UK from Z109. Since you bought a fleet, there is little opposition on the island

@Clyde85:

China can attack into Kwangtung and Burma, the only 2 non-Chinese tt in the game China can move units into, with the exception of the Flying Tigers, which are not allowed to land in either.

I have seen a growing number of instances where the Japanese player will send its airforce to kill off large stacks of Inf in the hinterlands of China, without land units to take the tt itself. It seems a pretty good idea, as your risk of loss is fairly low, but it seems like such an unfair move  :roll: oh well

Actually, the Tigers CAN land in Burma

@Krieghund:

No, they can’t, unless they’re already at war.  Powers not at war may not move units into territories or onto ships belonging to other powers.

or into neutrals.

It seems every time I get a good idea, I’m forgetting about a rule….

Answered there.

You may want to check under the House Rules section, people have posted good ideas of NAs on there before. Here is a link to one. http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=19976.0

@Croesus:

How far is Larry’s team on fixing the setup overall? Are we within a measurable range of seeing the setup being 100% agreed on? If so what is that measure?

Probably months still (meaning I doubt anything will be 100% official by Jan 1 2011).

Shouldn’t necessarily stop you, unless you want a 100% firm set of rules and locked in setup.

Russia assuming you understand how to be defensive.

The USA, if you know understand how to prepare & play offensively.

Nothing throws a game to a competant Axis like a Russian player that plays too offensively and overextends or a US player that doesn’t understand transport math and can’t keep sustained pressure.

i think that was pretty specific!  :-D

In general:
as Axis: be agressive, don’t waste time.
As Allies: start defensive and don,'t rush things.
As both: don’t stack! (well, UK is allowed)

Actually i’d advize to play a few times before you have a look at what others do.

great news looks like my post over on larry’s site did not fall on deaf ears.
i hope my idea is not only being considered but does get implemented into the errata.

THANK YOU! At least one other person acknowledges this and YES i realize the Pacific ocean is bigger than the Atlantic you jackwagon! US transports should have to travel further and linger out in the Atlantic in the U-boat kill zone where US air power cant reach. Germany then would have a chance at slowing down US landings with relatively cheap.

The +1 was Larry’s newest add on, the Beta.  I was trying to figure out how to make the new fellas stick out myself.  Probably just should remove it.

Think I forgot the AA Gun on the West Coast BTW

Well silly me answering w/o my map handy

Ok, everyone, I tried out this strategy and ultimately conceded that game.  Here’s the thread if you’re interested:

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=20754.0

If you’re going to try this out, make sure Japan tries SOMETHING in S. America J3 to tie up the US for at least a few rounds.  US had like $92 for most of the game, and the Axis dropping the ball in the Atlantic/Med made it WAY too easy for the US to whup up in Europe.  Also, I played Italy like a demented retard, as the Italian BB had some awesome rolling killing TWO separate 95%+ UK attacks, and I also gave up a FREE IC in Egypt TWICE.  Don’t let the True Neutrals distract Italy, especially if you’re lucky enough to have your BB survive UK1!  Take Egypt and build/seize that IC on it!

Also, don’t throw away the German airforce in the Med trying to help the Italians, build a minor IC in Yugo and build subs or your fleet moved in from Gibraltar; I keep telling myself that every game, and every game I end up with just a few planes on the carrier by G3-4.

@kcdzim:

@SalothSar:

USA kills it

Are you even paying attention, or just mass spamming/trolling?

We’re talking about UK1.  Not US6.

i do not think he is purposefully spamming, but he is spamming. i have just read many salothsar responses that are one word or less than a full sentence. his posts do not add anything to most threads. he posts opinions as if his are superior to others and has made personal attacks.

salothsar, i recommend you be less negative towards others.

@deadbunny:

the USA can build a massive fleet and either take Rome or move into Africa(I have seen both done in a single turn).

Do you mean building the fleet and taking Rome and Africa in the same turn? I must be misunderstanding this post.

Well, if I had written it, I think I would have been referring to SZ 92 which is where the US may want to be at the end of turn 4. It can dump troops into both Italy and Egypt. Maybe as a turn to take away victory cities? Otherwise, I’d just go straight for Italy and reinforce it next turn.

Germany takes France or you can call the game on turn 1 because the germans need the extra cash otherwise they are screwed.

Once again an absolute on winning the game turn 1.

Even if Africa falls…lets assume that Italy takes it for shits and giggles that rises their IPC per turn to around 30ish. The American forces still come and kick their asses in Italy or in Africa…once America has a foothold in Africa its over for Italy…or they go annoy Germany a lot in France or Norway.  America is still really strong thats why I think its worth the risk turn 1 for the UK. For the Axis player it wouldn’t be worth the risk at all but for the Allies they can afford to take chances if they wish.

OK, with this logic, since the US will eventually retake the African continent why bother wasting UK units (specifically high value units)? They could be used better somewhere else.