The allies would likely still win IF Germany also didn’t pull off a sealion attack because that would allow them to land in the UK and use it as a base to attack into France. Also if the allies wanted to be sneaky they could having Japan pinned on its home island attack from both sides of Russia forcing Germany to either give up free IPC’s or stretch its forces to defend attacks from both directions. With the USA income and the UK still free the allies can afford to do this. Or unless Rome is super stacked they could attack up through Rome. Personally as an allied player I would hit Rome and France as close together as possible and try and push in from both directions. At the same time I would use my fleet to keep Japan pinned on its home island. At that point Japan’s only real option would be to build guys to defend their home island. Or they could build some fleet trying to sink a ship or 2 each turn to force the allies to keep replacing them. But it wouldn’t matter in the long run I don’t think.

@SgtBlitz:

It would be nice if you could actually play the scenario where Germany and Russia remain best buds for the whole game.  It probably would actually have happened like that in real life had Hitler not been such a backstabbing treacherous douchebag.

Not really Russia was planning on atacking Germany at some point, they just got beat too it.

That’s true if you’re playing with the box rules, but this question was about the Alpha+ rules.

@SalothSar:

@MarkVIIIMarc:

Trick will be not letting the americans pull any gimmicks like taking over rome.

If you bomb the NB in Gibraltar you elimnate any USA gimmicks

If you hit more than 3 damage (and not get shot down by the AA)

I guess the concept was that the U.K. could sacrifice the occasional fighter withour screwing up the Russian N.O…  If Germany decided not to attack a given Territory to have the U.k. Fighter deny the N.O… then Russia is still ahead because they weren’t attacked.

Anyway, the U.K. could land on U.K.4 as I would think that %100 of Russian PLayers would declare war on R4 if Germany had not declared war by then.

Thanks guys.

I’m glad he rescinded the sub rule - it’s one less thing to worry about.

If you want Larry to see your ideas, why don’t you go to his site and PM him or write in a thread called “talk to Larry”?  He doesn’t visit A&A.org at all, IIRC.

Simple.  The airbase is located near the coastline, so planes can fly 0-50 miles or whatever out to sea to defend.

Planes in Berlin shouldn’t be able to defend Poland in the same manner, no.

Larry’s Alpha + includes a clarification that planes on a Jap airbase couldn’t defend against an amphibious assault (if no naval battle) on Korea.  That’s because the Korean coastline is too far away from the Jap airbase for scrambling….

Lastly, remember A&A is an abstraction.  Not all the rules have good reason.

In AA50 you can bombard France from the Mediterranean immediately after France is captured by an amphibious assault from Z7.  Battleships that can launch salvos hundreds of miles with pinpoint accuracy?

Just roll with Larry’s rules and enjoy the game, man.  Scrambling is for sea zones only.  :lol:

In the Europe rulebook, it is on page 30 under Transports (Loading and Offloading).

@gsh34:

Guys,

Thanks for trying this out.  Calvin, did you also have Japan shuttling troops across northern China so that a constant supply of Japanese troops would be arriving at J5?  Would six to eight Japanese troops a turn even matter against Russia in this scenario?  Did you see any thing that showed promise about this strategy?  Do you think this could be something possible to do after a successful Sealion so the transports are utilized?

I wish I knew how to view your map download.  Can you explain that please?

I think the map is pretty self-explanatory. How are you planning on streaming in that many Japanese troops when your planes aren’t available for dealing with China and UK? With no pressure on Russia’s western front, I don’t think they have to worry about the Japanese much.

would be nice, esp since LH typo’d the original post…

@rockrobinoff:

@nutbar:

I want to see a list of the countries grouped into the following categories:

Playing strategy and typeWhich coutntries should play Offensive?..…

simply put: A&A success, and the type of generalization you are looking for, do not go hand in hand. like any complex game, the better the player the less likely you are to look at any given situation through a ‘rule of thumb’ type of lens. “Russia should play defensive?” What does that even mean? Russia should play well, end of story, and what that means depends on so many different factors it is impossible to meaningfully generalize.

Well of course, but the idea is that most of the time, the Soviets are focusing less on capturing German territories, and more on preventing the capture of their own, thus being defensive play. Granted, it’s not to say “Russia should never attack someone” but generally, they’re fighting more for protecting themselves than harming Germany.

I think that japan should be able to build a major in china because it is a starting territory but they marked them Chinese so we know where the ACME walls are

artillery is good, and often underestimated.

Keep in mind though, that in certain situations, when you have tactical bombers closeby, and no fighters, you’ll be happy you have that occasional tank  :wink:

I think Larry should change the rules for tech to this: buying dice costs 10, and you have to roll a 6 still, but you can then choose the tech you want. And no tokens either.

@strategic:

I am trying to devise a wonderful strategy, for both sides, so I need to collect data. Just copy/paste the survey and write 1-5, 1=worst/least important, with 5= best/most important. Do as many, or as few countries as you would like, and include details if enhancing. Thank you in advance.

Survey:
Infantry
5 for everyone except:
Japan 3
ANZAC 2

Mech Infantry
Germany 3
Russia 2
UK India 2
Italy 2
Everyone else 1

Artillery

Russia 3
Germany 3
UK (both sides) 3
Italy 3
China 3
Japan 2
ANZAC 1

Tank
Germany 5
Russia 4
Japan 4
Everyone else 3 except:
ANZAC 1

Fighter
Japan 5
Germany 5
UK 5
ANZAC 5
US 4
Russia 3

Tac Bomber
Japan 5
Germany 5
UK 4
ANZAC 3
US 3
Russia 2

Strat Bomber
Germany 4
US 3
Japan 3
Everyone else 2

You’re now in turn 3?

I’d say wait with ships and build some defence if needed (or some air units) and some troops for South Africa. Meanwhile wait for USA to come and help out (with a sufficient warfleet en enough subs)

You can also opt to build up UK fleet in Canada, but don’t send them to their death

@allweneedislove:

@Kobu:

The map was posted in the other thread.

yeah i did not realize it when i posted it.

i just checked the other thread. it does not have the india canada swap or the added inf in romania

Sorry, I forgot them. I didn’t feel like editing the sektors.

@axisisthebest:

from harris game design

http://harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=4035

the alpha+ playtest specifications, changes that are made will be in red

Wow. we have a completely different game now.