IMO Allies have the edge in Revised and Classic. Especially Classic.
AA50 (both scenarios, although IIRC 41 is a bit closer) is tough for the Allies in most cases unless you turn NOs off and/or close the Dardanelles.

Of course, if you really hate yourself just play 42SE or G40 with Allies no bid.

For the once liking the OOB map. Here is my scan of the 2nd edition map:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=41446.0

When I have the time (my focus is currently on some Global 1940 customizations) I want to update at least the Iwo Jima and Honolulu mistake.

But looking at geography ‘errors’ don’t get me started on the Dutch East Indies and the fake islands they came up with.  :-)

It will come as no surprise that the axis won that game…

@mosuper:

As I understand it, the answer is no but would love the move official people to weigh in.

I suspect that the rule as I understand it is a bit cleaner:

If a germany falls falls (say to UK) then all territory belonging to Germany stays German. Suppose, all while Berlin is UK hands, US takes France ––> US gets France. If next, Japan takes France, then Japan gets to claim France. If next, Berlin is liberated, then France immediately goes back to Germany.

And, for factories, I think the rule is:

A country can only use an IC in a territory that they controlled at the beginning of their turn.

Some please correct me if I’m not getting the rule right.

All above is correct.

@mosuper:

What about when german units are available in a german country and Japanese units move in. Does Japan get to claim it or is it only when no German units are there?

In order for Japan to conquer (versus liberate) a German controlled territory after Berlin has fallen, the territory has to be taken by an allied power.  Just moving Japanese units into a Germany territory does nothing to the ownership of the territory, whether Berlin was lost or not.

Agreed, need and want are different. From what I gather, they only waited about 3 years between 1942.1 and 1942.2.

It’s nice to not have to house rule too much - even using a bid implies some additional play testing would have been beneficial. But to be able to discuss strategies here, etc, requires us to have the same rules. :)

Tourney starts Saturday. One day left to sign up. 25 people so far. Cash Prizes : )

@Ferris1971:

Hello all, just signed up.

I just got AA50 and am reading that the Allies are slightly disadvantaged. I also noted that there,s no representation of the Richelieu in the game. I’d like to house rule that the cruiser off of southern France be upgraded to a battleship. I know a lot of the imbalance in the game comes from the Japanese navy, but this could be a step in the right direction? I was thinking this and maybe an Ally bid of 10.

What does everyone think?

Well neither the Richelieu nor the Jean Bart were completed by the fall of France (though the Richelieu was near completion)… to be honest, A&A game-scale of units is really iffy and up for a lot of interpretation. While a lot of people like to assume or assign gamescale to ships (is one battleship on the gameboard ONE battleship?) you will end up with a LOT of ships that aren’t represented in the game (for example, lets just say both Japan and the US have THREE battleships on the game-board… that is a nice sized fleet for A&A, but heck, that doesn’t even cover half of either nation’s battleships… same for carriers… i’ve seen some people put names on A&A carriers for instance, but the Japanese used SIX carriers at Pearl Harbor alone… how many games have six Japanese carriers on the board?). I’m also guilty of writing a really long run-on sentence I believe. Let’s be honest, a lot of us (self included) are saying this or that ship on the board is this or that ship when gamescale is so up for grabs (but it’s fun, isn’t it?). I just want to see how many have a German battleship and claim its the Gneisenau, not the Bismarck.

Back to the other point… by all means, upgrade it to a Battleship if its for game-balance purposes… but there aren’t any French units in Anniversary… and there are plenty of British battleships to choose from if one unit is one battleship!

Happy New Year everyone!  :-D

Thanks guys. Understand now. Looking forward to starting a game after work tonight 😊

@warTorn:

@vodot:

Guys, use 7zip!

Seriously, freaking WinRAR!? For what- archiving the album of .mp3s you downloaded from napster over the course of an entire evening with your state-of-the-art, 38880 baud, dial-up modem?

I kid, but seriously: www.7zip.org.

EDIT: If you’re on a mac, use this instead (it’s a 7zip port) www.kekaosx.com/

YOU ARE A SAVIOR!!!

:-)

I updated this post. Not at local stores for pickup by me. But can get on line for 55.00 shipped free. Just 15% applies unless I’m missing something.

@TheAandAClassicDude:

If so, what kinds of videos?

I’m sort of new here and I don’t know what kind of videos you normally do. I assume that they’re A&A related, but that’s all I know. So, um, what kind of videos would you be willing to do?

-Midnight_Reaper

@LincolnsTopHat:

Just curiously, how do you plan on getting it printed? I’ve been looking around, and so far most printing sites are almost as expensive as getting the game itself.

Oh, printing the map isn’t about saving money (unless it was 2016 and you were trying to “make” AA50 without spending $500+ on E-Bay for an out-of-print used copy of AA50).

TBH, I’d be surprised if you could print a map for under the price of the game… the purpose of printing the map is usually to make a BIGGER map that is a single piece without creases or separate board issues for a more enjoyable way to play the game (I have printed maps for all my versions of A&A… I like bigger maps without the creases).

If you’re looking to save money, by all means, buy the game and play on the board that comes with it… that’s the cheapest way to play AA50 (at least in 2017).

@calvinhobbesliker:

Did Spring 1942 introduce defenseless transports?

AA50

Spring 1942 was basically A&A Revised played with AA50 rules.  1 or 2 Battleships and/or Destroyers were changed to the new Cruiser piece, but otherwise the set up was identical.

It’s the M14/41.

I orderd from Meeplemart. Was the cheapest I found (95.95$)
Shipping was 10$
Happy with my purchase.
Now if only I could be done with my exams so I could play some games…

I have an original copy of AA50 when it was released the first time.  Played it once.  Will probably purchase this re-issue as well.  Haven’t fully decided yet.

Hi jonpfl

nope. can only move ftr 4 spaces from AC. Allied ftrs can go along for a two movement ride and then move 4 on their turn

@Krieghund:

The “1942” image was released as an advance announcement for the original printing and is of a prototype.  All of the production boxes say “1941”.  BoardGameGeek has the prototype version of the box as its main image, which is very confusing.  It has led more than one person to question whether a copy of AA50 being sold online is authentic.  I have asked them several times to change it to the production version, and they have done so every time, but then someone else (presumably the person that uploaded the prototype image) asks them to change it back again.  Most likely that is the source of the image on CoolStuff’s website, as the image has the original AA50 logo in the lower right corner.

Makes sense  I thought there was only one version but just wanted to make sure.  Thanks guys

@CWO:

I’ve just posted some pictures of the sculpts over here:

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=40337.msg1707083#new

And to follow up on the pictures, I’ve posted tables over here…

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=40337.msg1707485#new

…giving unit counts and sculpt model identifications for the Anniversary reprint.

I would buy 2 copies Wolf and sell you 1 when you had the money if I lived closer to ya or you were in my group. Nobody close ? Thought guy post about hurricane just east of you .