That normally should have changed the game, but you had very solid play in Europe that I could not reverse. Cheers,

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/36051/wheatbeer-axis-vs-jdow-allies-20-bm3-rematch/2
threads up and awaiting scramble orders

@CaptainNapalm said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs CaptainNapalm (A) P2V:

@trulpen Good game. Thanks for the 3 games. Good luck in your future games.

U2

@dawgoneit
Thanks for the game!

@Ghostglider said in axis-dominion (allies+20) vs ghost bm3:

I surrender. Great game!

good game! funny I just sat down to do my turn, then saw your message. that was another intense one, especially with Japan, and at one point I was actually worried about London lol

@mainah operation Japan win the game successful… please post the game results in the league forum in the format you see the other results posted including a link to our forum topic.

I think re 97. the key is that you would kill german planes and that an airstrike would cost even more. I guess shutting down italy for good may have been worth it.

Hi, still up for another game? BTW, I had to upgrade to 2.5.22294 (the latest version) - so I could play a non-league game with a friend so you’d probably need that version as I think the game is cranky about mixing and matching saved game files.

Well, that definitely does it - thanks for the game!

@DannyDuck716 Yes, let’s do it! Chat for the bids.

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

Game History

Round: 8 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 2 transports; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Albania to Greece Italians take Greece from Russians 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya 2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in 98 Sea Zone Italians attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 fighters in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 98 Sea Zone Italians win with 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Libya Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry French defend with 1 fighter Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Libya, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 2.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter in Libya, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Libya Italians win, taking Libya from British with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 fighter Non Combat Move - Italians 1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 carrier moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland Place Units - Italians 2 transports placed in 99 Sea Zone Italians undo move 1. 2 transports placed in 97 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 18 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -0.50 British regular : 0.00

Savegame

@farmboy said in JDOW (X) vs farmboy (L+12) BM3:

I’m forgetting the specifics but I think your naval base and factory in Malaya that your fleet could retreat to influenced my thinking. Because of that, I thought one choice you had was to attack my fleet and retreat, building 3 carriers and possibly an airbase for insurance. I’d have to damage carriers in the battle not knowing how far you would take the attack and the following turn, I would have to retreat my damaged fleet and set up blockers to keep your now repaired fleet from wiping me out. That was risky enough that I didn’t think you would do it, but I thought it may be less risky than a straight up attack on the fleet. So I wanted to give you a lot of other targets.

Good point, I did not even consider such a hit and run. If this battle goes South, Japan is f**ked and I did not want to risk that so I didn’t look deeply into that option.

But as I said, playing Allies is tough and I am not sure if I had any chance if I played myself as Allies. Axis is just too strong and in order to win, Allies need one of the 2:

A major blunder by Axis Give them a BIG BIG bait that is too good to resist but that has the potential to go South, so they bite and it goes South.

But regarding 2: I observed games, where the Allies did that and the Axis took the bait but the dice did not punish it.
Wheatbeer once played gamerman. On paper, gamer was supposed to win this game in 95% of the cases. But what just took bait after bait, it all went well and out of sudden there was nothing what the Allies could do.

But I really think that this is inevitable when playing Allies. At some point, you need to make a bold move and put the game into MARTI’s hands. Otherwise, Axis will always be one step ahead.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

Game History

Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Southern Caucasus Germans take Northern Caucasus from Russians Germans take Southern Caucasus from Russians 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Tambov Germans take Tambov from Russians 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Stalingrad Germans take Stalingrad from Russians 1 artillery moved from Rostov to Kursk 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Northern Caucasus 2 bombers and 2 fighters moved from Ukraine to Russia 1 armour moved from Yaroslavl to Gorky Germans take Gorky from Russians 1 armour moved from Gorky to Russia 13 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Yaroslavl to Russia 1 infantry moved from Kirov to Gorky 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers moved from Leningrad to Russia 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 artillery moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 artillery moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 artillery moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 artillery moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 artillery moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 artillery moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 artillery moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 artillery moved from Western Germany to Denmark Combat - Germans Battle in Norway Germans attack with 4 artilleries and 5 infantry British defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Norway, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 4 artilleries and 5 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 2.83 expected hits British roll dice for 2 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Norway Germans win, taking Norway from British with 4 artilleries and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in Denmark Germans attack with 4 artilleries, 2 fighters and 4 infantry British defend with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Germans roll dice for 4 artilleries, 2 fighters and 4 infantry in Denmark, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 3.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Denmark, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Denmark Germans roll dice for 4 artilleries, 2 fighters and 4 infantry in Denmark, round 3 : 2/10 hits, 3.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour in Denmark, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Denmark Germans win, taking Denmark from British with 4 artilleries, 2 fighters and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for British: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Russia Germans attack with 14 armour, 1 artillery, 3 bombers, 6 fighters, 4 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 6 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 14 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 12 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians roll AA dice in Russia : 3/9 hits, 1.50 expected hits 3 bombers owned by the Germans lost in Russia Germans roll dice for 14 armour, 1 artillery, 6 fighters, 4 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 6 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 2 : 20/34 hits, 16.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 aaGuns, 14 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 12 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 2 : 8/30 hits, 13.17 expected hits 12 infantry owned by the Russians, 4 armour owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 4 infantry owned by the Germans, 3 aaGuns owned by the Russians and 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Russia Germans roll dice for 14 armour, 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 3 : 12/26 hits, 14.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 10 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 3 : 11/13 hits, 6.83 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians, 1 fighter owned by the Russians, 10 armour owned by the Russians and 11 armour owned by the Germans lost in Russia Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 4 : 9/15 hits, 8.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Russia, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Russia Germans captures 39PUs while taking Russians capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 2 armour, 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30 Casualties for Germans: 12 armour, 1 artillery, 3 bombers, 4 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys Casualties for Russians: 3 aaGuns, 14 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 12 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber triggerRussiansDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to Russians Trigger Germans Destroy Factories Stalingrad: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Germans in Stalingrad Non Combat Move - Germans Trigger Stalingrad Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Stalingrad_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans 1 fighter moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 fighter moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 fighter moved from Russia to Kursk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Kursk 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Northern Belarus 1 fighter moved from Denmark to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from Denmark to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Denmark Place Units - Germans 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Leningrad 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine 4 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Western Germany 1 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 108 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,1 Germans collect 65 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 104 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 107 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 112 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 117 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 132 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.67 Germans regular : 0.67 Russians AA : 1.50 British regular : -0.83

Savegame

@simon33 said in Pejon_88 (X) vs. Simon33 (Allies+16), 2nd game:

ftr Malta, sub SZ98

Same as this game.

@simon33 said in Oysteilo (Allies+35) vs Simon33 (Axis) G40, tech, house rules:

I’ve conceded the game there. Just rolled tech and got nothing. Seems that W Germany will soon be gone. Will be a challenge to maintain my foothold on Australia and maybe USA will be able to strengthen.

I think it is too early, but most likely you are in trouble long term. Eventually i will kick you out of middle east. But usa need to focus 95% on Japan, so that might give Germany some rest. But you are free to call it if you like. In any case it made things different.

Do you think the early attack on the neutrals has any merrits?

I’m already using 2.2.20868. Just got notice that newer version 2.5.2294 is available. Will stay with 2.2.2 unless you change.

@Ghostglider said in axis-dominion vs ghost (allies+20) bm3:

I surrender. GG

good game! sorry for some of that bad luck, that air strike you did was especially harsh!!!

Thank you for the fast paced game. Good luck in your future games

@aequitas-et-veritas I know the sub problem is quite upsetting, I run the 65v

@aagamerz13 Sounds good.