Uhh, some slaughter was going on according the Marti dice:D

Jason,

thanks a lot for the kind words, very interesting game. I can imagine it as at least satisfying to have Japan down and I can admit that it does not feel well.

However, I believe the outcome was inevitable regardless whether you had continued to siege Tokyo or grab all Japanese territory.

The decisive elements took place in the first 6 turns. Germans had a bumpy start but still managed to capture Moscow in turn 6 already without making any concessions. From there it was inevitable that the Germans soon will knock with overwhelming force at the doors of Egypt. As secure as it was in GoT Season 1 EP 1 that the white walkers will sooner or later come to the wall with overwhelming force:-)

So this game was a race against the Clock with the Germans having an early start. If everything goes 1-3 turns slower such games can go into a different direction and the Germans cannot hold against all Allies without Japan.

All of success for your remaining games and I am happy to start a rematch when the time allows it.

Best regards,
Tobias

im gonna give up… good game!

@Tizkit:

@StuckTojo:

@Tizkit:

I’d say that went well, but it would be an understatement.

You can say that again.   :-P

Well, I think this one’s a foregone conclusion. It was a game of embarrassing mistakes on my part. For all my playing I can still only count all the times I’ve had to deal with Sea Lion on one hand. Obviously my Sea Lion counter strategy needs some work.

Good game. I’ll post the results.

Yeah it doesn’t seem to happen that often.  I’ve gone looking before for Sea Lion games from high level players to see how they do it but couldn’t really find any.

I find it very risky compared to the reward.  When you bought an IC in Egypt plus a transport on turn 1 I decided it was now or never, but even then I couldn’t take London with more than 1 land unit remaining.

Generally speaking I think you were in great shape if not for leaving the US fleet vulnerable and then giving me good odds on E. Poland.

I think my take away is that I should never have taken Gibraltar with Italy.  It gave you the opportunity for an airbase and if it was in UK hands I could have bombed out the naval base and you couldn’t repair.

Good game.

Agreed. That was such a dumb mistake with the US fleet. I can’t even believe I did that since I know full-well to factor in that Italian bomber.

As for the E Poland I didn’t even bother calculating the odds. I thought I had a good idea of what they were, but obviously didn’t. I think the Sea Lion thing had me completely rattled.

I’ve done that same UK1 purchase a 100 times against all kinds of players, and no one’s ever tried doing the Sea Lion. I guess I just took for grated you wouldn’t, either. Note to self:  make sure you know the other fellow’s tendencies if you’re going to leave UK vulnerable.  :-P

I am!  But I want to wait until BSD’s game finishes.  With luck it’ll be soon.

bump #3 I guess…

Can do

Have you set it up already? Didn’t see it

The only way to prevent Japan from loading transports is to move UK ships into the sea zones (as you did), but then ANZAC has to declare war to make the sea zones hostile at the start of Japan’s turn. If you’d like, I’m fine with either retroactively having ANZAC declare war or editing the UK ships somewhere else that you would prefer. It is a bit of an esoteric rule.

Sounds good
All is well here, been super busy with family work and work plus the vehicles needing work, one done one to go
I work both jobs a lot this week so I wont be able to post until Thurs

you win
i have posted the win.
G.G.

Sorry about that, MrRoboto. Can you fix that Desert_Admiral?

A major setback losing Rome. I didn’t expect that attack, but it worked.

Thank you all.

Was the first time I tried this strategy and may be that surprised Axis because my usual G3 + J3 was not used. Then the extremely quick pace I think helped me too, playing allies requires more time than Axis when Axis is doing an ultra rapid invasion with a clearly defined strategy. I remember our game last year when I was starting in BM and you were controlling very well everything long term and don’t remember any questionable move short or mid term in that game. Here I think the Axis had the edge all the game, regardless of dice. Japan was able to revert the arts that shouldn’t have been there in CH1 in example, because its plan was robust I think, but perhaps having sacrificed the russians instead of retreating them from Manchuria after having declared war would have helped china, that is the kind of decision that may be with more time for analysis the allies would have taken with more considerarions that the pure battle average output. I may be wrong, but I felt your moves ahead mines last year and behind this one.

In any case, you are always a tough opponent to respect and fear in any competition.

I’m proud of having reached the final vs a great player and gent like you.

Juan

@MrRoboto:

gg, I forfeit.

Rematch?

let me get some things in order and I will get back to you for another game, shortly!

Oh wow, that came earlier than expected! Well thank you for playing! I enjoyed the game.

The dice that last turn were indeed pretty harsh for Japan. I did lose 2 planes while clearing blockers, but that was in a lot of clearings, so that seems about right (although that happend before the last UK/US turn). I think the Allied Navy will still have to retreat for now, but whether you lose planes or not, it’s going to get reinforced so fast that Japan probably can’t keep up… But given Germany and Italy’s current income I’d have expected you to play on for a bit and see if you could pressure Russia enough to get something going in Europe (and perhaps take the pressure off Japan).
Losing both bombers indeed is a harsh blow for Japan.

I think that a German IC in Yugo is always a bad idea, if you want to produce in the mediterranean with Germany, you’re better of taking Southern France… And you can always load a couple of infantry on Italian transports to ship em over. No help for Germany from Italy in Russia makes it quite slow going in, combined with the turn 2/3 split of your Ger stack that forced you to take an extra turn before moving into Russia, it’s hard to get income from Russian territories fast enough…

Thank you for playing!

@Giallo:

ill surrender, well played lost all my games lately…

Thanks for the game, and sorry to hear about the losses but I’m sure things will turn around.

And well played as well. There were points earlier where this could have easily turned your way and you very effectively contained Italy and protected Moscow. Apart from the attack on the Italian fleet in 97, I also think I had quite a bit of dice luck when I needed it which may have made the difference as well. Even so, I did think you had a chance to win earlier but perhaps played a bit too cautiously?

Once you wiped out the Italian fleet and grabbed Greece, I wonder if you might have done better if you pulled much of that fleet around to threaten India. Given the land units in Persia, air in the Mediterranean, and the number of transports, I think it might have become very hard for me to hold India, keep you out of the money islands, and also take Australia. That would have eased the pressure on me in Europe but it would take a while for Italy to recover and Moscow was quite safe at that point.

In the USSR, I think you also might have played more defensive than you needed to.There were a couple of times where you retreated to Moscow when I think it was fairly safe and you could keep your stacks adjacent to Moscow if I tried to sneak around. Had you done so, I think you might have pushed me out of Ukraine, Volgograd and Caucasus sooner. I also got quite lucky that I had just enough to give me the odds in  Leningrad when you started moving West.

Good luck with your other games!

I don’t know Icha; I believe BM3 is not that balanced for the allies and I have read about it and I am very sceptical.

If you want to try BM3 with me, we can do it in a non league game and no bid on either side.

I still prefer to play G40 sec ed tho.

Let me know.

New thread here:

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=42393.0

Yeah, failing to retake Yunnan C1 was a sign of bad things!

Right now I am locked in death match against Axis Dominion in a very tight game.  It’s sucking all my time away, probably some time I should’ve spent here…  :-P

Anyhow, once that is over, I will start some new games.

So, hold on!