I agree…  Traditional conservative strats, Germany and Russia are both in trouble about T10.

how bout this to slow down japan; r1      6inf, 1 fig in bury.
                                                uk1    sub on sub in salomon(even fight, for 1 rnd then submerge)
                                                          trns to sz west of salomon (new guniea i think)
                                                          ac, des, fig to kill tranny off kwangtung( fighter land in bury)
                                                          tranny to block east indies fleet in boreo(or philipienes which ever im not in front of aboard)
                                                          2 figs west can
                                                          bom to sinkiang or west can(different ranges, both spots have advantages)

the purchases will be dependent on need(uk might need a big stack of inf to prevent losing london)                     
                              so jap now has slow down issues( icant wait to hear what is said about this one)

Granted.  But at least it isn’t BMB, FIG, 2 SS vs SS, Trn, BB. :)

It seems that you aren´t doing so well back in Europe.
In a KJF game Germany normally can take Egypt on G1 and then whole Africa and Tr.J. and Persia in the next 2 rounds without the use of big armies.
Meanwhile you can also threaten Caucasus and later on Moscow and don´t forget about London, because Uk sometimes forgets itself,
In many games you can also easily outbuild the UK navy if Uk isn´t putting much into Eu. waters and threaten London, Brazil or force the US to protect Eastern US with more soldiers, pulling pressure of Japan.

If you were posting in a thread here and that thread is gone, check elsewhere on the site.

If it was about finding a game, look there.  If it became political or non-game, look in those areas.

just keeping the boards ordered…

I still think the cost is too high for Russia.  You loose your fighters, at least 1, Germany should have bid extra into Egypt so they have plenty to take and close the canal, they have neough to sink the BB in Gibraltar and can still make serious threats on Russian land, especially with the loss of 6-8 units for Russia’s defense.

Yea, the Med fleet is destroyed, probably.  But that only nets England about 6 IPCs, maybe 7 and cost Russia 24-44 IPCs to do.

No.

The FAQs neutered German rockets, greatly limiting the number of attacks you can makes, and limiting the economic damage.  Check the website.

It used to be that German rocket research was an excellent and successful strategy; you’d build five or six AA guns and cripple Moscow and London.  No longer.

As far as house rules, I recommend posting in the “House Rules” forum.

Exactly the only option in your situation would be to let the territory be taken by Germany and then land there with US boys again.

@Amon-Sul:

Germany has a sub in the North Sea and AC with two figters in Baltic
UK has 1 bat and 5 subs in North Atlantic Seazone

is it possible for UK to attack German sub in North Sea with its 2 subs,  and then attack German fleet i Baltic with 1 bat and 3 subs

No, you can’t do that for the reasons stated already.  But note that the UK subs can sail right through (or rather, under) the German sub in the North Sea to attack the Baltic.

So the UK could attack the Baltic with up to 5 subs (plus air if available) and attack the North Sea sub with the BB (plus any subs not attacking the Baltic, plus air if available).

but how can i find it, where?

you can also move units into an enemy seazone that contains only enemy submerged sub(s).

@CrazyStraw:

Howdy.

I hadn’t weighed in on this thread, but I just got a story to tell.

Yesterday I played a game against a good player.  It was time-limited.

No joke, in a 5 round game I built 9tra 1car with Germany.

And it WON the game for me!

It was ridiculous!

It was absurd!

It was outrageous!

It was sublime…

So German boats can be good.  That would have been excessive in 99% of the games I’ve played, but yesterday it was exactly enough to get the job done.  Simple lesson: the Baltic is important.

I begin to see the value in LL / No Luck games and in non-time limited games.

My entire strategies in my tournament game had to change because of a time limit.  It caused a waste of two turns because I forgot to take into account that there was a time limit in each round.  (not a round limit, that would have been easy to work with, but a time limit.)

needless to say, I’m never making that mistake again!

@ncscswitch:

5 FIGs not 6.

Germany starts with 6 FIGs, one of which would be lost in Ukraine.

Right, but I was pointing out tha they could build a fighter anyway.  So, assuming they planned too, then they would have 6 fighters again instead of 7.

Much of this topic (that had gone completely off-topic) has been moved

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=7374.0

And just FYI…

In Second Edition by Milton Bradley and in the old Hasbro CD (3rd Ed.), control of 2 Allied capitals by the Axis was a defined Axis victory.

He leaves minimal men in W.Europe and S. Europe because he has overwhelming force the next turn to get it back so he realisticly don’t lose money. Me and my bro tried to land UK in Western E/ than fly 6 fighters(U.S) and some of their ground units to stop Germany from retaking it.

Then I feel it is quite feasible to beat your uncle if all he does is build mainly tanks + 1 fighter here and there. What you’re going to want to do is take out his navy and take Norway with the UK on the first round, provided he doesn’t have his fighters within range to kill your navy. After Norway is taken, just keep landing as much as you can in W. Europe. This will take the pressure off of Russia in a jiffy. He can’t use his 8 tanks per turn both to take W. Europe back as well as invade Russia. At first the landings may seem ineffectual since it’s just the UK, but after a few turns the landings grow substantial because of the US, and it should no longer be economical for him to retake W. Europe. After that, S. Europe falls, and things collapse for the Germans.

If you can’t land in W. Europe, then just take it slow and mass troops in Karelia to protect the Russian’s northern flank until the US comes. A joint defense of Russia and UK together should be more than enough to stop the Germans from taking Moscow. Once you’re ready then march towards Germany with masses of troops.

@ncscswitch:

Ah, found it…Â

It is a matter of terminology.  Specifically, the terms now used are “collect” instead of the old “raid”

Here is the excerpt from LHTR…

Capturing and Liberating Capitals
If you capture a territory containing an enemy capital (Washington, Moscow, London, Berlin, or Tokyo), follow the same procedure as for capturing a territory. Add the captured territory’s income value to your national production. In addition, you collect all unspent IPCs from the former owner of the captured capital.

Notice that it says that you COLLECT income (emphasis added above), you do not raid it, seize it, or anything else, you COLLECT it.

Then there is this…

PHASE 7: COLLECT INCOME
In this phase, you earn production income to finance future attacks and strategies. Look up your power’s national production level (indicated by your control marker) on the National Production Chart, and collect that number of IPCs from the bank. Double-check your income by counting up the value of all the territories you control.

If your capital is under an enemy power’s control, you cannot collect income. A power cannot lend or give IPCs to another power, even if both powers are on the same side.

So… since you COLLECT the IPC’s held by the enemy if you take their capital, and if you CANNOT COLLECT income when your own capital is enemy held… you do NOT get the money for taking an enemy capital when your own has fallen.

Sorry, Switch, but you are using these excerpts wrong. You can’t just look at the wording “collect”. That’s misleading, whatever terminology you use it happens in different phases. Phase 7 is just called “collect income” in which you collect income for your territories. You can not draw the conclusion that because the words coincide a “raid” of money is prohibited.

All the rules state is that you skip all phases but CM and NCM. It is NOT wrong to seize(or collect if you wish) money during those phases. It is during phase 7 you can’t collect income.

when i play with my friends on the battle board we play with all six weapons devealopment and with all the national advantages

then you really enjoy playing a game, you have thousands of possibilites but also if you are for example German you really enjoy harrasing with you Panzer Divisions or U-Boats, with Japan your Banzai and Kamikaze are great for you, not to mention Russian Winter and so on…

these how the game is more a game

but without National Advantages (or even without weapons devealopment-which i don´t understand why you remove from tournaments) the game is more ˝a chess˝ than just a game
but if you want to practice your brain…

Abattlemap 0.79f is a mapping utility for axis and allies.  It’s basically a map of the board with moveable pieces.