I want to make a short game where germany has all the techs and the allies have to kill them both before time runs out… or the allies lose.

Ok that explaination makes more sence. Can you reword it in such a manner that it captures both the examples and the language of your description?

background
its all a bit strange
I never understood why Gibraltar is so bloody hard to take

I mean just before “Battle of Bulge” Germany striked a Allies airbase around Low countries, “Operation Bodenplatte”
Germany took out almost 500 planes
but lost planes to AA and friendly fire that Luffwaffe was over

Gibraltar is not that out of range
never understood why they didn’t bomb the crap out of it and just do a paradrop or something

occupying units
yeah Gibraltar and Malta are tiny places
we do want to model that hence the “miniature” territories rule, they only able to hold 3 units

we can tune that if you want
one unit is very little so just double check and see I guess  :|

attacking units
I don’t think there needs to be a limit in attacking air units though
but the thing is its a tiny place with nothing to land on
so instead of the normal rule of “must retreat if you have no ground units left”…attacking air units must retreat at the end of 1st cycle

as for land units
Gibraltar it can’t support more than 1 land division (1 land unit)
but it can momentarily “hold” more than that
axis and allies doesn’t cater for that by default
so just I say just do it like CV (aircraft carrier)…you must retreat excess capacity…if you can’t you lose the units (division disbandedand or something)

going along with that, attacking force is not just 1 unit
consider amphibious landing at Normandy
its saturated
but you just do it in waves

Enemy shipping
Strait Interdiction at the moment is 2 targets hitting on 3 or less.
I guess we could make it all targets 1 or less. Thats the other extreme end. Though thats a bit weak.
I think all targets hitting on 2 or less.

Yeah it should hit enemy shipping too.

Conclusion: my take

Miniature Territories
Only 1 INF and 1 air unit can occupy.
Defending land units has defence increased by 2.
One 2 INF units can attack.
Attacking air units must retreat at the end of 1st cycle.
Land unit in excess of occupation capacity must retreat at the end of 1st cycle or be destroyed.
Amphibious retreat allowed.

Strait Interdiction
Roll one attack dice each hostile naval units except for SS (submarine). The dice hits on 2 or less destroying the unit.
Roll one dice against each hostile IPC shipping hitting on 2 or less.

Paint some German infantry. In the late 30’s Germany provided most of the china infantry equipment. See also here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NRA_Germandivs_inspection.jpg

Further I only know that there are some plastic molds on the market of chinese korean war pieces. You could use those also…

If they saw the latest files i feel we would have won easily. They are that good.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=8670.0

use the “mechanized units” for trucks

you can use choppers, hover tanks and delta wing bombers too :mrgreen:

Thats fairly the same ratio that existed before the Germans even attacked the Soviet Union. The difference was Germany was only prepared to fight the war “on the cheap” with a quick victory. This could overcome long odds only if it was decisive and daring plan. Once the offensive bogged down and the Soviets had time to catch their breath and learn from their mistakes the scale tilted not only quantitatively but qualitatively. The winter was one such ‘break’ to gain a rest from the German onslaught.

If the Germans had ever commited a ‘total war’ approach earlier in the war things would have been different to make up for the numbers against them.AS it was it was too many to fight at one time.

I used the tanker rule to do so.
If you have a tanker. (Cost 4 IPC) Your naval fleet can make a 3 sea zone movement.
The tanker has no attack capability but defend on a 1 against warship.
No defence against sub!!!.
The limit is 3 tanker per player.
For sub lovers,  it’s a must….

Alan.

I have railroads and oil fleld territory on my A&A game.
(I’m a railfan since 20 years so it was normal to incorporate railraod on my game.
I found a lot of info on the net about railroad line in 1939.
So i incorporated european,asian and american railroad line on my map.

Here’s my house rules.
Each player can move infantry and artillery by railroads.
1 units per territory.
During the non combat movement, infantry and/or artillery can make a 2 two zones move.  The player must use is own railway he can’t pass throught an ennemy occupied zone.
There’s one exception. USSR.
The Russian player can move 3 infantries ( Or 3 artillery) because this player has the trans-siberian railway national advantage.

For oilfiled. It’s simple.
I have 20 oil territory.
USSR 2, USA 2, France 2, UK 3, Chana 1,Italy 1, neutral country 9. 
If you take possession of an ennemy oil territory. The lost player must pay to the new owner, twice of the value of the territory. example. If the german player occupied Egypt (2 IPC). The UK must pay 4 IPC to the german player.

If a player lost all is oil territory he’s going to get a penalty.
At the beginning of his turn he must roll a dice. 
1 or 2: Ground unit cannot attack.
3 or 4 : Air unit cannont attack.
5 or 6 : Naval unit cannot attack.
(No effect for transport and submarine).

Oil is realy important. Infatc, you cannot make the war without that.
For Hitler itwas too late.

Alan.

The best place for discussions about adding rules and maps to TripleA is on the triplea dev forum (http://tripleadev.org/)

If you look in the doc folder in TripleA, there are some instructions on making alternate maps/scenarios, but as Tonez noted this requires programming, and programming time is in short supply.

@Imperious:

+++++ Then i feel we should use the same pattern in AARHE to fit with LHTR. The language should be similiar so as not to confuse. Please modifiy this throughout the text.

Ok.

The diplomacy modifier of -3 was too much and leads to many neutrals converting too fast.

Yeah I can imagine.
Thats hitting on 4 or less, which is 66%.
Allies has 4 dices per turn.

If you love A&A Revised but feel it falls a bit short of it’s potential, try http://boards.avalonhill.com/showthread.php?t=15339  I would be happy to discuss the rules or even play a game with interested players…

Jennifer don’t you mean AARHE? rather than AARe?

AS soon as a few people are ready we should attempt a play by post.

I actually sold my map that was printed to another friend… so ill need to get another copy.

dakgoalie38:

check out this section of what we came up with on paratroopers and air transport.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=7594.30

even today I am still a bit confused about what transport can and can’t do  :wink:

in the end is this kind of attack reasonable?
considering the AA batteries are scattered and not easy to spot?

@SSG:

Uhhh….Switch, was that last ‘chits’ a typo or a Freudian slip? :-D

Um, BOTH.  Because keeping up with this little laminated squares is a pain :-)

Yeah I recall seeing some photos somewhere on the internet.

Someone traced a real map.
Painted it on a huge piece of wood. A0 or A-1.  :mrgreen:

Where’s Derek’s map?

@Cobert:

I like unlimited attacking (in Risk only), it adds an element of surprise since you can attack right into your opponents gut.

Im playing a free-for-all game later tonight.  Im probably going to be Russia, jus to add a challenge.

I sense an early treaty with Germany and a war with the UK in my future…Russia in africa/india might not be a bad idea.

ithink japan will be the most intresting to play. probably most likely to piss everyone off. it has no common enemy everyone except german yis in the grasp of japan. even then if japan want safrica they may start a war. you may have to give up ypu 2 eaxstern countries as appesment. but don’t forget to attack sinkiang first turn.  w.r russia should fall to you to so german should evacuvate it 1st turn.